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Anyone here considering a 4th gen?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by mfalbojr, Jan 3, 2025.

  1. Jan 3, 2025 at 4:17 PM
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    mfalbojr

    mfalbojr [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I am coming up on time for a new truck. I have always drove Tacoma's, had every gen they made. I can't say that my 3rd gen is bad, but it certainly doesn't hold up to the reliability of the previous gens. I am sure that some of that is because there is so much more to newer vehicles than ever before. Way more possibility for problems, especially since so many of the parts to assemble new cars is outsourced. I never questioned buying a Toyota before. extremely reliable, high resale value even with tons of miles, and quite simple to work on as vehicles go. But after my 3rd gen, I think this is how most Ford or GM owners must feel. So why not try one? The new Ranger is very impressive, not the best looking, but impressive. The new GMC is a great looking truck. I don't know, I've always heard "stick with the horse that brung ya" and that is generally good advise. The thing is, I have spent more repairing this truck than I spent on all of my previous Tacoma's combined. For those of you wondering, its a 2017 with 180K. I have had to replace two faulty fuel injectors, replaced the engine at 140k, and now a catalytic converter is bad. These were all very expensive repairs. I know, it happens, but it never happened before. I usually sell my trucks around the 180-200k mark. Clearly I am there with the odometer, but for the 1st time, I am not sure what dealership I will be heading to.
     
  2. Jan 3, 2025 at 4:26 PM
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    doublethebass

    doublethebass aspiring well-known member

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    woah - what happened at 140K that you needed a new engine?
     
  3. Jan 3, 2025 at 4:26 PM
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    ERod27

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    I'd personally wait. Toyotathon just ended. To answer your question, yes, I've considered it—until I think about having a truck payment again. It tempers my desire.
     
  4. Jan 3, 2025 at 4:36 PM
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    .劉煒

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    Not interested in another truck until mine has problems. And even then, I'd prefer a PHEV/EREV type. The Scout is kinda intriging.
     
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  5. Jan 3, 2025 at 4:37 PM
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    TA2016

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    Did you have an extended warranty on your 2017? Maybe consider an extended warranty no matter what brand you buy.

    I needed a new vehicle in 2016 which pushed me to buy the first year of a new Tacoma generation.i don’t need a new truck at this time, but would trade for a 4th Gen if the discount was Huge.
     
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  6. Jan 3, 2025 at 5:06 PM
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    Tocamo

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    Would love a 4th gen, but still love my uber reliable 8 year old 3rd gen.
     
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  7. Jan 3, 2025 at 5:13 PM
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    Kolohe07

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    Well, you did buy the second year of a new gen.
    I would say don't do it again.
    Sorry about all the problems you had.
    I have a 2022 so not ready yet for a new truck.
    I drove my 2008 Sport for 14 years.
     
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  8. Jan 4, 2025 at 5:47 AM
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    Taco_mike73

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    I think it's more a personal decision. Most people say to not buy the 1st model year of a new vehicle or redesign if you can help it. Maybe wait till the 2025's are out a bit. I've heard some issues with the transmission and other drive train parts on the 2024 when people started to get them and test them hard. Toyota will fix it give some time.
    Me personally I would never trade my 2020 for anything now... I just paid it off this September. It only has around 36,000 miles and has never needed anything other than maintenance and state inspections that it passes. I don't want a vehicle payment right now when I'm gearing up to do some projects on my home that I also hope to not borrow money for, because owing the man sucks.
     
  9. Jan 4, 2025 at 8:28 AM
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    Always considering it but remember the horrible experience with my 2017 that I traded for a 2019 which has been sold. Its been payed off, done with mods, only 32k miles, and after testing a 2024, as much as I love the torque, the turbo lag is very noticeable unless you shell out 70k for a hybrid. The V6 is a gutless engine, but still has the instant response from a stop. I also have the OTT tune which really made the shifting more logical. I will never say never though.
     
  10. Jan 4, 2025 at 8:32 AM
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    Okkine 2.0

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    I removed those annoying stickers on the sun visor.
    I plan on driving my 3rd gen for the next 20 years, but I'd personally avoid buying any vehicle within the first 2 years of a major redesign.
     
  11. Jan 4, 2025 at 12:52 PM
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    maxmk8

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    I did … but now I don’t. Because a ranger raptor costs as much as a trd or and is a full second faster to 60 than a trd bro
     
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    Nah
     
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  13. Jan 4, 2025 at 3:24 PM
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    Radd

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    If the model had been around for a few years I could look past the looks in order to get more power, better mileage and better seats.

    We bought a first year new model car two times, not trucks......Never again, it was a disaster both times. The Toyota was always breaking down. The Nissan was so bad it was removed from the market and Nissan bought them all back including ours.

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  14. Jan 4, 2025 at 6:41 PM
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    As soon as SnugTop makes a HiLiner Sport for it I'm going to start shopping.
     
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  15. Jan 4, 2025 at 7:18 PM
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    Everyone cries that something new isn’t as good, until it’s the standard for long enough. People said it with the third gen, and yes they had their share of issues. Originally I was looking at the 4th gen before I made my switch over from VW. Spent a solid year just learning as much as I could about Toyota and lurking various forums, so I saw a lot of the history. It really does seem like Toyota cares about their reputation and will improve the product with time, but I think I’d always hold out for the mid-cycle refresh. Regardless, even the most durable cars have a few problem children; so it’s always a roll of the dice.
     
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  16. Jan 4, 2025 at 8:25 PM
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    Nope. I have the Tacoma 3 dealers told me I would never find, and one told me she would do her very best to find me one.
    She found me one! And I sent her flowers the day it was delivered!

    It's not replaceable, and it's not for sale.


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  17. Jan 4, 2025 at 8:39 PM
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    MannyS

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    No 4 banger for me. Will probably replace the 23 Sport next year with a V6 Ranger or Frontier. Sport will probably reach the 150K mile mark in 18 months.
     
  18. Jan 4, 2025 at 9:05 PM
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    Azrael's Gaze

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    No. Tho if i had the disposable income to buy another new truck id probably get drunk one night and go "oh a removable bluetooth speaker is nifty" and buy one
     
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  19. Jan 4, 2025 at 9:11 PM
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    RayInAalaska

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    The problem I can see is the high cost of the following:
    a. Buying an already very expensive truck
    b. Maintenance, plus expensive parts
    c. Insurance

    New trucks, regardless of kind, incorporate a lot more electronic devices and features than the older counterparts, the repairs are now a lot more difficult for the average consumer to tackle, some of the parts can cost a fortune, and the shop's hourly labor is very high. Compare all of that to previous generations where one could perform numerous kinds of maintenance oneself, plus much easier and cheaper than the 3rd Generation Tacomas, or anything other truck-for that matter.

    The more people driving Tacomas, the higher the number of breakdowns. It is a simple as that. But there is one thing that can offset that formula, and this relates to the quality of the workforce's craftsmanship and the materials used.
     
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  20. Jan 4, 2025 at 9:20 PM
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    I’ll be hitting 200K on my 2010 probably next week. It runs like a top except the TPMS batteries are getting weak. No serious issues ever. Always have done more than recommended fluid changes. Because it runs so well, I am going to wait a few years to see and iron out any new generation issues. I’m concerned about the turbo engine lasting a long time. I have saved up and put away cash to pay for it when it happens so no hurry for me.
     

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