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Rear Lift Question

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Tennessean, Feb 25, 2025.

  1. Feb 25, 2025 at 11:47 AM
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    Tennessean

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    I have a question and was hoping to draw on the experience of others here on the forum. I am a new Tacoma owner (DCSB TRDORP) and the previous owner added a Fab Fours winch bumper, RC 9500 PRO winch, and a Ranch Fiberglass Topper, all on the stock suspension. I was going to do a Billie 6112 down the road , but think I want to go ahead and install a 5100 as I have an upcoming trip to Montana where I will spend a lot of time on the Forestry roads and trails.
    I am going to upgrade the front coil springs to 650lb to account for the weight of the slimline bumper and winch. The Billie's will be set at 1.5 for the front.
    My question concerns the rear lift. Would I be okay using 5125 rear shocks coupled with an AAL or is there a better option to manage the static load of about 350-400lbs worth of topper and gear? My old self would use an AAL and standard 5100. I want to do it safely and properly.
    A slight rake unloaded and level while loaded would be ideal.

    Thanks!
    TN
     
  2. Feb 25, 2025 at 12:11 PM
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    I often see a 1" drop in height from a fiberglass topper. You can do a an Icon add a leaf, leave the overload leaf in but trim the overload so that the front keeper bracket Rivet is not making contact with the rest of the leaf pack. This will get you an extra 1.85"ish of rear lift. You can also pair that with either 5100's or the 5160's with the add a leaf. And even if you want an extra bit of lift, you can put a 1/2" block under it too. Just make sure that you have longer ubolts and center pin for it.

    Otherwise a full leaf pack is a better investment. You will feel a little less body roll from a leaf pack vs the add a leaf. Stock leafs tend to be on the weak side.
     
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  3. Feb 25, 2025 at 12:26 PM
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    I just tossed together a couple kits on Headstrong, and it's only about $600 more to go with 6112/5160s vs 5100s all around. Icon RXT pack included, along with assembled front coilovers. I chose the 2887 ARB coilover, but honestly I'm not sure which one you'd want (i'm not versed in ARB coil springs). You mentioned you'd like to go 6112 in the future, so I'd suggest the whole buy once cry once methodology.

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    6112's are a much better shock, get some new top hats for them too. 6112 will ride a little bit softer, and again with less body roll bc of the bigger diameter shocks and coil. Comes with a 600lb coil but a 650/700 is not a bad idea if really loaded down.
     
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  5. Feb 25, 2025 at 12:37 PM
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    Thank you, Friday. That is exactly what I was looking for. Would you recommend Deavers, Icon, or what?
     
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  6. Feb 25, 2025 at 12:39 PM
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    I know that was aimed at Friday, but I highly recommend Deavers. They're more expensive, but mine have treated me great with my heavy weight Tacoma.
     
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    Thanks gents! I can't type fast enough to keep up with the responses. Looks like I'm selling some guns to fund the project!
     
  8. Feb 25, 2025 at 12:43 PM
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    It'll be an expensive project as I want to put new shoes on the truck, also. Back to the drawing board. Anyone need a kidney?
     
  9. Feb 25, 2025 at 12:48 PM
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    Deaver over Icon's RXT all day long.

    I have the Icon RXT - they are nice bc you can pick level 1,2,3 and go back in and change it later as needed. The only thing that I dont like about them is that their round leaf end pads are too thin and they can squeek more over time compared to deaver. I changed mine out for thicker ones after a couple of years.
     
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    Budget is going to be a limiting factor. Convincing Mama that I need to spend more on top of what we just paid for the truck may be a bit of a stretch. She's an excellent money manager and somewhat frugal. I'm going to have to sit down and establish a budget and work within that constraint. The budget will have to include tires, also. I can wait and save to get exactly what I want, but I want better tires and suspension before the Montana trip. I can go ahead and move forward with tires, 5100's, 650lb coils, and an add-a-leaf and upgrade down the road. Going to run Falken Wildpeak MT 255/85R16, so I shouldn't need much, if any, lift. But the added weight currently on the factory suspension needs to be corrected, her road manners are a bit unsettled.
     

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