Just do rear shocks?

Hey all,
Dumb question. Sorry.
I finally ordered new shocks. 5100s for my 2014 trd sport.
Ordered all 4 and the fronts are assembled with coil overs.
just received the rears. fronts delayed in shipping.
can I just replace the rear shocks this weekend while I have them (and time) and next weekend do the front shocks when they arrive?
Or should front / rear all be done at once?

 

No problem doing that. Go for it.

 

Thanks! Silly question I know but wasnt sure if there was any issues or concerns

 

Nope, no issues or concerns.

 

Easiest, best, and cheapest thing at this point would be to return pencil 5100’s and get shocks

 

If you're going to leave advice like this, at least add a recommendation of what you think is better.

 

Yup do the rears first, spreads out the back pain across two separate days.

Do it up!

 

Nah, he’s just a troll and has a hair across his ass on probably the most popular shock on TW.

 

Ha! I recognize him and actually I don't think he's a troll, I read him give a good detailed explanation about why he didn't like 5100s in some lost thread I can't find, and I'm curious to hear him out.

I think it's valuable to have people going against the consensus on these forums because most people are just repeating what they've read 100 times without reasoning through it.

 

Theres much better ways to convey a point. It's trolling. 5100's are the best performance value shock, there's nothing that comes close.

 

I think most people don't even know that they are considered a value shock, so if nothing else his comment has introduced this piece of info into the conversation by you and I talking about it. Personally, by the time we're upgrading and working on our own trucks, I think most of us might be willing to spend more, but if you ask you just get a chorus of "5100" without anyone telling you that there are better options.

 

My issue is they are purchased, OP is excited to install them, so why induce buyers remorse with an opinion that wasnt warranted?

For reference I'm running 4600s and look forward to getting 6112s on my next truck. I don't regret the 4600s at all, and I dont think OP will regret 5100s.

 

Couldn't agree more. I actually just put a set F/R on my wife's 4Runner yesterday. My credentials aren't exactly small when it comes to wheeling and performance in Toyota's. Your's aren't either. Wonder what @TacoTuesday1 has actually done to verify the claim he often makes about Billie 5100s?

 

I’ve seen TacoTuesday1 posts about 6112s vs 5100s. I think he’s trolling. But his reasoning against 5100 is that they are “junk and ride like shit”. I don’t think the most popular shock on TW would be crap. It’s okay that he has an opinion but put some facts behind it besides “junk and ride like shit”.

 

That's the question I wanted him to answer lol. I get it, OP is almost certainly going to be happy with his purchase, but the whole point of the forum is to share information so I thought I'd ask him to elaborate.

You aren't wrong that it's kinda dick move to drop in and poop on OP without explanation.

OP, you're fine. Go with God, best luck with the install, drop a picture or two when you're all set!

 

A shock that is not pencil thin, start with that

1. only person with “hair across his ass” is someone refusing facts. Innovation comes from innovating, not lack of innovating and arguing that 2+2=5.

2. its probably not the most popular

3. Popular does not mean good. Smoking meth being popular does not mean it is good. Turd gen is popular. Lots of stuff is popular. Good for them let em have it.
Leave the good stuff left over.

Almost like how consensus in 195/196 countries is an LC79 but consensus at WalMart is turd gen

the definition of value is getting something out of it.

my 5100’s sucked. They cost me time and money. I got nothing out of it. I struggled to give them away. As everyone else knew.
I then had to buy a set of shocks and do the job and associated work again twice. I do not have them any more. I did work to get rid of them and solve the problem of having them.

that meets the definition of value as much as flushing a hundred dollar bill down the toilet.

Probably because facts are facts. That is wishful thinking.
If I am excited to do something dumb and a friend stops me, that’s a good thing.

it’s not an opinion. It is a fact and answer.

buyers remorse? Oh no. Whatever will one do. Part of life. Return, sell, or eat the cost.

Very interesting. Reminds me of stupid shit like brush guards.
last car brand I had forum was pretty honest. They’d be like “yeah, this is a shit shock. I am not happy with it. That other shock is better”

or “well this other shock is obviously much better but costs more and I cannot afford it so in the meantime I will run this garbage”
(For example, KW V3’s are great. I cannot afford them. I did not run them. That does not make them not great.)

or “I want to know the finite difference between these shocks that are competitors and similarly priced”

Or “I am not sponsored by this product therefore I will try different things”

or “hey buddy can I ride in your vehicle with the shocks I am eyeing, to see how they are”

and not “hey guys just want to let you know I drank my piss, it tastes great and is the best move, here is a picture, clap for me or I will be mad. Multiple choice question should I drink 1 or 2 cups of my own piss a day? Any other answer and I will be mad.”

maybe because I obviously had them? Not that hard. Not sure what you mean by credentials or what that has to do with running a cheap pencil shock. That does neither on nor off road with (especially on road) where most time is spent.

I've noticed that people happy with their setups are usually off forums and enjoying them, and professionals not wasting time looking at dumbfuckery on forums.

exactly. If you know an answer, you say so. I’m not answering how to fly into space. As I don’t know that.

I am not pooping on OP. I am not pooping on 5100. 5100 poops on itself. It is poop. Painted silver. I am just aware of it and notifying OP to save the headache. Having a new sellable or returnable shock is not the same as a dirty one after hours of labor on a vehicle.
I am not the kid at 4WP lying to you for commission. I am not trying to sell you anything. I do not receive commission.

however, if one wants to ignore advice and screw up, they can. The world keeps spinning. I’ve learned things the hard way as well.

also, roads vary by location. Such as state and city. If you live in a state or city with fucked up roads, you probably do not want a shitty shock.

 

It would be much more helpful if you have some details like "this shock is better because xxxx" or "the 5100 is thinner than xBRANDx and performs worse because xxxx".

If you have facts please say how you know. Like, how did they suck? What did you replace them with and why are the new ones better?

 

I too have heard nitro chargers are good. I had stock, 4600, and 5100, and off roaded. This guy in front of me on a trail was comfortably eating through gnarly terrain in a 4runner that I was absolutely struggling with. When I finally caught up and he had been resting for a while I asked how the hell did you do that. He pointed to nitro chargers.

 

I accidentally deleted my post. Meant to edit.

 

I wouldn't say "this shock is better" because it's not a close tie. Damn near every shock is better.
At that thickness and price, I wouldn't call it a shock at all.
That's like saying what gun is better than a Hi-Point. It is not a particular gun. Every gun is better than a Hi-Point. Glock? Better than a Hi-Point. S&W? Better than a Hi-Point. Sig? Better than a Hi-Point. Desert Eagle? Better than a Hi-Point. Revolver? Better than a Hi-Point. Shitty Taurus? Better than a Hi-Point. FN? Better than a Hi-Point. 1911? Better than a Hi-Point. CZ? Better than a Hi-Point. Walther? Better than a Hi-Point. Shadow Systems? Better than a Hi-Point. I am not sure what else I left off the table. Damn near everything.
I am not about to read off an entire catalog when a person hasn't figured that out.
A Hi-Point is cheap. There is a reason that it is. You get what you pay for. If you get nothing, you get nothing.
Right now, there is someone out there with a Hi-Point. OK.

the 5100 is not "thinner". It is objectively thin as fuck. It is damn near thinner than every brand. Go to a store and hold it in your hand. Find a truck and look it at it. Go drive a truck for free.
It is literally the bottom of the barrel of Bilstein, and the entire shock world. Both in size and price.

I had them. They sucked on and off road.
My buddy had me install 6112/5160 on his truck. We test drove on and off road. I felt, wow, these are better. Not the best, but better. For a good price. I am looking to have a close to normal vehicle. Not a shopping cart.
So that's what I got. It's better.

Why?
1. it's affordable
2. it's better
3. it's not the most expensive
4. they're bigger
5. there is little, if nothing else at all, comparable in it's class in terms of price range.
6. The market has deemed it valuable, due to performing. So if you're done with it, you can actually sell it.
7. It was chosen for Pros. For a reason. They upcharged for a package. People had to get something to pay for that package. Not a lot. But something.
6112/5160 is value shock. 5100 is not.
6112/5160 doesn't cost that much. It's not the best. It's not long travel. It's not adjustable. It doesn't have front reservoirs. It's pretty thick and not thin. It comes with a lifetime warranty. It on and off roads not like a shopping cart.
I do not compare Nitro Charger. It doesn't have a reservoir.
I don't compare Eibach. It is small and said to ride like shit. I do not believe they are an off road truck company.
I don't compare Fox 2.0. 2.0 is thinner than 6112 2.3". It's in the name.
Fox res from a TRD Pro would be comparable.

That's like comparing a 325i to an M3. It is not comparable. It is comparable to an A4 or C-class it was designed to compete with and gets compared to, performing similarly with minor differences.
Comparable to an M3 would be an AMG, S, RS, -V, etc. things have leagues
TRD Pro would be comparable to Raptor Ranger, performance Colorado, Rubicon (it's not but they pretend to)

I bet you Fox 2.5 resi adj is better than that. I cannot afford them. I do not work at Google.
Please order 5100 using promo code D33ZNUTS so I can get $50 to save for some.

I am not a 6112/5160 salesman either. But if you decide to get some, please also use promo code D33ZNUTS so i can get $50 to save for Fox 2.5 long travel resi adjustable.