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Is this code an ERG valve in my 1996? I'm hoping someone out there can please help me

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by 1996_2.4, Jul 5, 2025.

  1. Jul 5, 2025 at 6:08 PM
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    Thanks to some great people here that commented that the EGR valve seems to be stuck closed and is not going to do harm to my engine until I can afford to get it fixed.

    I'm going to leave this posting up in case somebody else gets this same code.

    Today my check engine light came on and the guy at NAPA "thinks" my EGR valve is stuck open or closed.

    Right now the car starts and idles fine, seems to have normal power, and does not seem to knock going up hill.

    Please let me know if I can drive it 30 miles a day to work for a month without permanently damaging my engine? I've got to get to work and can't miss a day.

    My 1996 is the 2.4 4 cylinder with the 5 speed and has been running great for years.

    He says a new ERG valve is $200 but I can't possibly change it myself and I do not have a dime to pay a cent to fix it until the end of July (all my cards are already maxed out). Someone please give me some good news about driving my truck for another month.
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    I appreciate that. In your opinion can I drive my car 30 miles a day for a month? I can't afford to repair it now.

    It seems to start and run normal with the same power.
     
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    If the valve was stuck open (and the passages were clear) the engine would have a rough idle. The engine can't comfortably consume the extra exhaust gasses at idle, needs more load and rpms (fuel and air flow through the engine)

    The code literally says "insufficient flow" so probably not stuck open

    However there are a few things that can inhibit the flow of exhaust gases back through the intake and into the engine.
    - the valve could be physically stuck closed or plugged w/ carbon (soot)
    - the passages from the valve to the intake manifold could be clogged
    - the electric solenoid (vacuum switching valve) that opens and allows vacuum to open the valve could be bad
    - there could be a loss of vacuum supply somewhere like a broken or disconnected vacuum line or a ripped diaphragm in the egr valve itself


    Long story short, if the valve is stuck open it will cause the engine to run rough. If the valve is stuck closed it usually won't really have any effect on the driveability of the engine.
    Since your engine idles and drives OK, I'd say it's probably stuck closed. You're safe to drive
     
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    Oh man oh man, I can't thank you enough for talking me down from the ledge! You really helped me out today. I was scared sh*tless.

    Won't pass DEQ but that's okay for now. The car does not idle rough and still seems to have the same power.

    Thanks again.
     
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  7. Jul 5, 2025 at 6:39 PM
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    No rough idle if it's stuck closed. It only causes a driveability problem if stuck open.

    Back in the days before on-board diagnostics people used to disconnect them and leave it that way. Nowadays if the system isn’t working correctly it flags a code
     
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    Wow, you mean if people lived in a non-emissions testing state they would disconnect them? That is great news.

    So the only thing I have to worry about is passing emissions? No detonation or harm to the engine? Phew, thanks a bunch for the info, I was a damn wreck.
     
  9. Jul 5, 2025 at 6:58 PM
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    They do really help with smog though. By rerouting exhaust gases back through the engine it helps keep combustion temps down. High combustion temps result in oxides of nitrogen (NOx) going out the tailpipe. Once in the air NOx reacts with other stuff like VOCs and sulphur dioxide to create the actual particles that form smog.

    Before EGR technology was introduced most major cities in the country had substantial air quality issues. Google some old photos of Tacoma Washington in the 70s and you'll see ;)

    NOx is a big problem for diesel engines since the compression ignition is so hot anyway.. they deal with it by using huge catalyst systems and injecting DEF into the exhaust to treat it before it goes out the tailpipe

    Later model gasoline engines use the variable valve timing system(VVTi) to help control NOx so the old EGR valve setup is becoming obsolete.
    The variable camshaft timing allows some "over-lap" between the intake and exhaust valves. This "traps" some leftover exhaust gas in the cylinder from the previous cycle and keeps the next combustion cycle slightly cooler. Since they've learned how to trap a little exhaust gas they no longer need to plumb it back in from the exhaust side
     
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