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Non-hybrid with 33's considerations

Discussion in '4th Gen. Tacomas (2024+)' started by rybern, Jun 9, 2025.

  1. Jun 13, 2025 at 5:19 PM
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    Mike, that looks great. Thanks for sharing the photos and info. The Nitto G3 is one of my top choices and the +45 to +47 wheel offset is where Id like to end up. I like the OEM black XP wheels that are 18 x 8 +45 a little better than these Tundra wheels.

    Offset difference from TRD OR wheel offset of +55 (my interpretation):
    If I understand the offset data correctly, when comparing the TRD OR wheels that are 7.5" wide +55 offset, these XP and Tundra wheels will place the face of the wheel ~10-12mm closer outward plus half of the width of the wheel. So by my math, these wheels will be .40"(10mm) + .25"(half of wheel width increase) which equals about 5/8" further outward.
     
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  2. Jun 13, 2025 at 5:31 PM
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    Yep… that’s right. Good luck with your wheel search!
     
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  3. Jun 14, 2025 at 3:45 PM
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    Have you noticed a MPG loss when you went the these 270/70r18 that weigh 45-46lbs?
     
  4. Jun 14, 2025 at 5:32 PM
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    Not sure yet, but will report back. Have only got thru a half tank with these tires. Will say that there is no sluggishness or change in how the truck behaves.
     
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    That's correct as to the rim lip and the tire sidewall but the tread is centered on the wheel and will only move outward 10-12mm. Just in case that's important to you.
     
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  6. Jun 14, 2025 at 6:10 PM
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    I found a deal on some like new 18" TRD OR wheels and bought them so I need to make a decision on tires. I really like the larger 18" TRD OR wheels look on the TRD OR Hybrid trucks.

    Thanks for the confirmation. I'm going in a slightly different direction on wheels now but I'm liking understanding this topic a little better.

    Thanks. Glad to know there's no sluggishness or behavior.
     
  7. Jun 15, 2025 at 2:40 PM
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    I just put the RT Trail tires on my truck (not a Tacoma though) I did consider the impact on MPGs since they weigh about 18 pounds more each tire than the OEM Grabber APTs, which despite being on an off-road model truck, were really more for getting good MPGs.
    So far, I'm getting about the same MPGs. Going from WA to CA on a road trip soon, will know for sure (we frequently do this trip several times a year, so I know the typical MPGs of this truck on APTs)

    I chose the RT Trails primarily because of appearance and off-road performance. They are probably the most expensive option of all the aforementioned tires, but I really like their aggressive appearance
     
  8. Jun 15, 2025 at 7:03 PM
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    Wow, 18 lbs per tire more should certainly impact mpg negatively. What size did you go to?
     
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  9. Jun 16, 2025 at 11:19 PM
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    Same as stock, 275/70 18 I believe.

    I put KO2'S on my last truck and lost 3 MPGs. Those were heavy!

    I know the new Toyos will knock down the MPGs, I'll know more after the road trip. With the KO2'S on my last truck, it was obvious by the first 1/4 of the fuel gauge that the truck was way thirstier. So far, it seems ok with the Toyos, it's not as obvious this time around.

    I did some pretty gnarly off-roading with the Toyos last week, found some hard packed snow up near Mt Rainier, these did pretty good.
     
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  10. Jun 18, 2025 at 7:26 AM
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    OP here. I've pretty much decided to go with 275/65r18 SL Ridge Grappler. There are slightly lighter tire options but I'm choosing this tire for the following reasons:

    1. has max pressure of 50psi which give me a little more flexibility when towing (265/70r18 is max 45psi)
    2. weighs 45lbs which is still pretty light for an XL tire
    3. overall reputation of the Ridge Grappler
    3. love the looks of the Ridge Grappler
     
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    Do they make that size, I would have considered that size but the Nitto site doesn't show it?
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    Opps, I've corrected the error. I meant 275/65r18 which is a 32.1" OD.
     
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    Look at the tread depth on those as well they have a lot less tread to begin with and the sidewall tread is usually way less.
     
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    That's true.... all the Ridge Grappler E-rated tires have 16/32. All other Ridge Grapplers have 13/32. I don't want or need E rated tires.
     
  15. Jul 13, 2025 at 6:29 AM
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    I ended up going with 265/70r18 SL Ridge Grapplers due to the quietness of them. Wife and I did back to back test drives of a 4G Taco with Ridge Grapplers, a 4G Taco with Toyo R/T and then my own 4G Taco with the stock BFG Trail Terrains. The Ridge Grappler are not much louder than the stock BFG's. The Toyo R/T's were substantially louder than the Ridge Grapplers (wife and I both agreed).

    My first tank of gas with the Ridge Grapplers indicates that my mpg loss is just over 2mpg. I'm pretty disappointed with that.

    Stock 265/70r17 (65 lbs ea):
    6/11/25 337/16.3 = 20.3 mpg
    6/20/25 353/16.3 = 21.7 mpg
    7/1/25 341/15.7 = 21.7 mpg
    7/3/25 318/14.3 = 22.2 mpg

    Ridge Grappler 265/70r18 (74 lbs):
    7/13/25 322/16.4 = 19.5 mpg

    I'm hope the next tank will be a little better. I'm not just pinching pennies here... this decreases the range by 30 miles. I could get 350 miles before the tire swap.

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    I have the same setup and I feel the ride is a bit stiffer (in a good sporty way) and a small loss in MPG but overall I'm very happy about it. In the future I would actually want to go with larger tires (possible 35's) after a lift.
     
  17. Jul 14, 2025 at 3:49 AM
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    I edited my above post to include mpg info.
     
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    Did you take into acount your odometer is about 3% off now? If not, you are right around 20 mpg.

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    Hmm, I didn't account for that because I'm not convinced that my speedometer is off by 3%. Some folks say that these new speedometers recalibrate using GPS. But my speedometer does seem to be off my 1mph at 50mph and not quite 2mph at 75mph (when comparing to GPS). Then factor in the allowable error for the speedometer.

    Its also interesting that many folks have said that putting 33's on thier 4th gen has made thier speedo "right on". That's definitely not the case with mine. However, I am currently running 35-36psi which may tend to make the radius of the center of the wheel to the road a little larger compared to tires are at 31-32psi. :notsure:
     
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