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Keep OEM Bilstein shock but lift using a longer spring?

Discussion in '4th Gen. Tacomas (2024+)' started by regius, Jul 3, 2025.

  1. Jul 22, 2025 at 4:40 PM
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    daywalker_402

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    They will work just fine on the sport shocks. They’re a hair longer and a little bit higher rate than stock to achieve the lift. We do have the factory TRD shocks on hand that can be sent out with our springs on them if you want a factory replacement. We also have the 5100s
     
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  2. Jul 22, 2025 at 4:42 PM
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    I'll do it myself. I'll disconnect the two lower control arm bolts, then the shock bolt , sway bar bolts and loosen cam bolts - that's the route I'll go since I'm not replacing UC's on this rig.

    Here's the Eibach lift I ended doing in my garage - If this isn't what I think it'll be, hoping to get what I lost back after installing the bumper and winch and then an additional 1.5. Not sure what I'm hoping for in the rear - I ordered both sets of springs from Alldogs - I'll go back this same Eibach kit. I honestly like the color matching of the Eibach kit against the Celestial Silver body vs the Red TRD shocks.


    Sold this a month ago: 23 ORP w/ 13K

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  3. Jul 23, 2025 at 5:10 AM
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    I’ve taken the coilover out both ways. Dropping the LCA is easier but torquing everything sucks since 4 bolts are over 200 lb/ft. Taking it out by disconnecting the UCA, you have to fight the axle to keep it in the joints. It’s not super difficult, but can be annoying getting it to set back in the joint.
     
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  4. Jul 23, 2025 at 6:43 AM
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    I’m hoping I can rent a torque wrench to get to the 230 ft lb mark.
    If I’m just not feeling it - I’ll run it up to Toyota and just have them do it.
     
  5. Jul 23, 2025 at 7:17 AM
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    I've also done a few of these going the LCA route and it's been VERY easy, when I installed my Alldogs springs the shock reservoir got in the way doing it that way. Just an FYI but I had to remove the LCA bolts to install which made it a pain to do.
     
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  6. Jul 23, 2025 at 10:52 AM
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    I plane to have my local Toyota do it, they've done some mod for me in the past.
     
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  7. Jul 23, 2025 at 1:43 PM
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    Springs and the ICON reinforcement plates came in today. I'll measure them and put it out there. I may try to tackle this this weekend - depending on whether or not I can get my hands on a torque wrench to do the job correctly.
    Still not sure on the rear springs yet. I'll get the fronts done and inspect and go from there.
     
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  8. Jul 24, 2025 at 7:26 AM
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    I installed the AllDogs front springs on my 2024 OR. They are the same length as the stock springs while removed from the vehicle.

    They provide a little shy of 2" of lift, and *almost* level the truck completely, leaving just a tiny bit of rake. (perfect, imo)

    I've offroaded twice since installing and had no issues. The on-pavement ride feels identical to stock, to me.

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  9. Jul 24, 2025 at 7:33 AM
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    Not sure how both could be true. To get lift, the springs would have to be longer or stiffer (same shocks/no additional preload). If they are the same length and you got lift then the stiffer springs should ride stiffer... Looks good though.
     
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  10. Jul 24, 2025 at 7:41 AM
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    I hear what you're saying, 100%.

    I've had spacer lifts before, and know what you mean by a stiffer ride to gain height. I didn't want to to that to this truck, and went the route of swapping out springs. It may very well ride stiffer than stock, but it's not "stiff" by any means.

    Maybe it feels "stock" to me because I was so keen on avoiding the stiff spacer feel, and this definitely accomplished that. Most of the offroading here in FL consists of sandy fire trails, with lots of bouncing, but no hard jarring (no rocks or large roots down here). That could also be contributing to my impression of performance.
     
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  11. Jul 24, 2025 at 1:40 PM
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    I have a Hybrid too and only got 1.4 of lift on the front, had to add a 1/4 in spacer to get a little more. Looks good!
     
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  12. Jul 24, 2025 at 3:24 PM
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    I like that look of your Tacoma. My issue is that I added a 90 lb front bumper and a 65 lb winch and therefore got a little sag in the front. I'm hoping to get rid of the sag and gain an inch or so by adding the ADO springs. I ordered the ADO rear springs when I ordered the fronts - all arrived yesterday - I may end up posting them on here if it may make my Taco look really weird after install on rear. Sidenote: I just put in a set of Lasfit all weather mats and I'm super impressed with the overall coverage vs the Toyota version of All weather mats.
     
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  13. Jul 24, 2025 at 3:26 PM
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    you should get some height back but i assume you won't get the advertised height back. we are in the works of coming out with a heavy coil for the tacomas but it probably won't be available until after the 1st of the year.
     
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  14. Jul 24, 2025 at 3:27 PM
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    You may get more lift as Alldogs told me my issue was the weight of the Hybrid, but as we can see from IIIAWOLLIII that's not the case, their springs must not all be the same. When you have a chance post a pic of the matts please, these stockers are crap!
     
  15. Jul 24, 2025 at 3:33 PM
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    I'm kinda thinking the same. I'll be interested to see what it does look like in the end.

    At some point I'm sure I'll be biting the bullet for another Eibach coilover kit.
     
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  16. Jul 24, 2025 at 4:54 PM
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    I’ve been super happy with my Fox 2.5 IFP kit so far. May be another kit to look at
     
  17. Jul 24, 2025 at 5:06 PM
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    Let me give you a number. I have the Alldog springs in the front. I have a 74# bumper and an 83# winch, 157# total. Distance from center of the wheel hub to the fender is 22.5" on my TRD-OR. Hopefully this give you an idea what to expect.
     
  18. Jul 25, 2025 at 8:06 AM
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    Interesting. When did you install the AllDogs springs? Wondering if maybe the specs have changed.

    And thanks.
     
  19. Aug 2, 2025 at 4:41 PM
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    I still haven't done the install yet. I ended up buying a 250lb torque wrench. Got super busy job wise and time passed me by. I did measure where I am height wise now: 21 inches from center hub to fender well and 23 inches in rear. That makes me wonder what I actually lost AFTER bumper and winch install.
     
  20. Aug 2, 2025 at 5:13 PM
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    Stuffing a taller coil onto the stock Bilstein typically isn’t the best way to get lift. The shock can top out and the ride suffers. A slightly stiffer spring can net you 1–1.5″ without overextending the shock, but a full‑length lift spring really belongs with a longer shock like the Bilstein 5100 or 6112. I'd shoot Bilstein an email. They can tell you which of their coils pairs well with the shock... and save you from explaining why your truck is hopping down the driveway ;D
     

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