Question about exact lift

Hi everyone,


I have a 2018 Toyota Tacoma Double Cab Long Bed and I’m trying to figure out the exact lift numbers I’ll get with my setup.

From what I’ve read, the advertised lift numbers are usually based on a Short Bed Tacoma, so I understand that the Long Bed might get slightly less rear lift due to the extra weight.


My questions:

1. How much rear lift should I realistically expect with the L59-110-R on a Double Cab Long Bed with no load?
2. If I run 2.5” up front and ~2.0” in the rear, will the truck sit with a slight nose-up stance (negative rake)?
3. Would you recommend lowering the front to ~2.25” or adding a small AAL to the rear for a perfectly level stance?

Thanks for your help!

 

I've never seen two leaf springs sit the same. We always encourage a tiny bit of rake. All leaf springs come down with time, and adding load only makes a level truck worse.

Typically we'll install it and adjust lift as needed, you could see 2" in the rear or more.

 

I have a long bed, 5100s on the top setting and a one-inch rear block. Sits level with a 2/1as I have put a few hundred pounds in the bed with no issue. Thats about all I put back there.

 

Normally we don't recommend more than 2" front lift... Not for any concerns about stance, but because of the angles it puts on CV joints, control arms and the like (above 2" begins to invite problems with ride quality and parts longevity).
The possibility is still there you could get away with running 2.25" lift for a good amount of time though (certainly longer than at 2.5" lift).

Also FYI, a DCLB is heavier than a DCSB at both ends (not just the rear). This because the rear axle is set back further (longer wheelbase) causes the front weight to be somewhat heavier as well. My guess is any lift loss to the weight would even out F&R (assuming you are lifting the front with replacement coil springs rather than reusing your OEM coil springs on a shock that accept them).

 

Hi 4x4junkie,


Thanks for the info earlier! I have a follow-up question for you.


Would you recommend running Bilstein B8 8112 ZoneControl up front and Bilstein B8 8100 ZoneControl in the rear, paired with Dobinsons L59-110-R leaf springs on a Double Cab Long Bed?


Also, based on your experience, would you suggest setting the front lift to 2.25″ and the rear to 1.5″ or 2.0″ in order to level the DCLB and achieve the best stance and ride comfort?


My goal is to have a leveled DCLB with excellent street comfort, good stance, and long-term durability.


Thanks!

 

Your rear shocks would need to have a minimum extended length around 23.75" to work decent with 2" lift in the rear (ideally 24.75" or so). Also I believe the maximum collapsed-length cutoff is around 14.5" before you may need taller bumpstops.
A brief search tells me the Tacoma 8100s are 22.8" long (14.25" collapsed), so I would not suggest more than 1" rear lift with those (if you don't go offroad, you could then get away with 1.5" lift, but why buy high-end shocks if you don't go offroad with it?). Plus the bypass function might not work properly if they are extended too far.
You say you want the truck "leveled", seems to me 1" rear lift would be about perfect for that anyway...

Then as I stated above, this would dictate no more than 2" lift on the front.
A 2" front / 1" rear lift is very popular, and would fit that criteria.

If you really must have it taller, then the next step up would be a 4" lift utilizing a kit with drop-down crossmembers, which is probably more than what your asking for. Unfortunately anything between 2" to 4" lift is a height range that just does not work well on the front of these trucks due to both suspension design, as well as with what's currently available in the aftermarket.

 

Another question. Why lift your Tacoma, are you going offroading? Looking for good stance? Only “highway princess!” Only pretty!

 

you wrong about this, I’m not a Highway Princess like Jeeps and Tacomas with more than 24” rims and never touch a “sand”


I do go to off-road

 

Never told you was “highway princess!” Get get plenty people raised up Tacoma super high. But good you go offroad.

 

OP, A nice 1 inch body lift to go with a nice 2/1 lift is an idea. I'm looking into adding a small body lift and a 1 inch kits is what some have done. I saw a similar set up a Tacoma a few months ago and I must say you cannot tell a body lift was installed. I love the look of 285s on a lifted long bed, but this body lift may be a go for me.

 

Bishop has the most solid advice on the approach to determining what your front lift should be. Get the leafs in and adjust the front accordingly. But I will strongly suggest against the level especially with a soft leaf pack on a dclb. Maintain atleast 1" of rake to the rear if you lift the front 2" the rear should follow with 2" of lift. Otherwise the second you add weight to the bed it was squat and drive poorly. That was my experience with my ome leaf pack.

Also as noted the dclb is heavier i would maybe consider the 111 pack unless you don't haul or tow anything. The dobinsons pack has been really good to me so far compared to my OME pack and hasn't settled out much even after beating on it for a year. Dobinsons does include lift and weight specs for both the dcsb and dclb just be sure you are noting that and accounting for some spring settle.

This is set up a 2/3 when very little weight is in the rear it comes close to leveling when fully loaded.

 

your right about the 8100 series bilsteins. they are designed for close to stock ride height. especially the rears. reason i went with icon omegas over them offering over 2" more rear wheel travel

 

i have the 1" toytec kit.

 

Can I still go off-road with the Bilstein 8100s? I do some off-roading from time to time — not extreme rock crawling, but trails, mud, and rough roads here in Puerto Rico. Will the 8100s handle that well, or are they really only for near-stock height and on-road use?

 

they are one of THE BEST bolt on shocks for offroad driving.