1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

AR build

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by StZu, Nov 4, 2011.

  1. Nov 18, 2011 at 6:59 PM
    #41
    Polymerhead

    Polymerhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2010
    Member:
    #44737
    Messages:
    4,800
    Gender:
    Male
    Missouri
    Vehicle:
    '18 TRD Limited Inferno...Tundra!
    I think you're right. Also, 1:12 is standard for non-tactical .223 bolt guns. I have a Rem 700 and a Howa and they both shoot 40 and 50 gr V-Max loads quite well. Have never tried anything heavier/longer, but I would expect groups to open up when you hit 55 gr and up.
     
  2. Nov 19, 2011 at 6:01 AM
    #42
    JDCPA

    JDCPA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2008
    Member:
    #10777
    Messages:
    931
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    SW FL
    Vehicle:
    09 5 Lug Access Cab SR5
    Curt Hitch and etrailer.com wiring harness.
  3. Nov 19, 2011 at 7:15 AM
    #43
    StZu

    StZu [OP] Where the White Women At?

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2010
    Member:
    #28795
    Messages:
    1,503
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Richard
    Dallas Texas
    Vehicle:
    18 Super White TRD Offroad
    Level 8 Wheels, Bilstien/Eibach lift, 2" aal, blacked out rear bumper, AC drain hose relocation, sound deadening 4 doors and back wall, amp/speaker upgrade, 10" daytona sub, LED interior lights.
    please keep it civil. thanks for all of your help so far!
     
  4. Nov 19, 2011 at 8:42 AM
    #44
    thinkingman

    thinkingman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2008
    Member:
    #5971
    Messages:
    1,105
    redmond WA
    Vehicle:
    2006 dbl cab 4wd 6sp
    Foglights are for fog, not oncoming traffic!
    These guys know a little sumpn about accuracy...
    http://www.6mmbr.com/223rem.html


    Twist Rates
    The .223 Rem shoots a wide range of bullets very effectively, from 35gr flat-based varmint bullets, to ultra-long 90gr VLDs. However, you'll need the right twist rate for your choice of bullet. For max velocity and accuracy with the lightest bullets, a 1:14" twist may be ideal. More versatile is a 1:12" twist that will allow you to shoot the popular 60-64 grain match bullets. (However, a 1:9" twist is needed for the steel-core 62gr bullet used in the M855 military loads, because that bullet is as long as most 70-grainers.) For normal lead-core jacketed bullets, a 1:9" twist will let you shoot up to 73gr bullets. Since most .223 Rem shooters prefer bullets in the 50-73gr range, a good "do-it-all" solution is a 9-twist, unless you're a Highpower competitor.

    For long-range match purposes, long, high-BC bullets are favored for their ability to buck the wind. You'll want at least a 1:8" twist to shoot the 77gr and 80gr MatchKings and 80gr Bergers. To shoot the new 90gr pills, a 1:6.5" is recommended, though a true 1:7" will work in most conditions.

    Overall, what twist rate is best? For varminting we like a 12-twist. The slower twist will give you a bit more velocity, and minimize the risk of jacket failure at high rpms. For general use, an 8-twist barrel will let you shoot the excellent 77gr and 80gr Sierra MatchKings and nearly all varieties of non-tracer milsurp ammo. We'd only select a 1:7" or faster twist barrel if we had a need to shoot the 90gr VLDs.

    Barrel Twist Rate 1:14" 1:12" 1:9" 1:8" 1:7" or 1:6.5"
    Max Bullet Weight 55gr FB 65gr FB 73gr BT 80gr BT 90gr BT VLD
     
  5. Nov 20, 2011 at 2:30 PM
    #45
    Zombie Runner

    Zombie Runner Are these black helicopters for me?

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2008
    Member:
    #5246
    Messages:
    15,070
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Wichita Falls, TX
    Vehicle:
    2011 taco, sport 4x4
    oil change...
    ill post this again. ;) ^
    http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=82739
     
  6. Nov 20, 2011 at 2:32 PM
    #46
    Polymerhead

    Polymerhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2010
    Member:
    #44737
    Messages:
    4,800
    Gender:
    Male
    Missouri
    Vehicle:
    '18 TRD Limited Inferno...Tundra!
  7. Nov 20, 2011 at 3:37 PM
    #47
    Zombie Runner

    Zombie Runner Are these black helicopters for me?

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2008
    Member:
    #5246
    Messages:
    15,070
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Wichita Falls, TX
    Vehicle:
    2011 taco, sport 4x4
    oil change...
    lol its a "new" chart.

    If JD is happy with his bushmaster then awesome! Im happy for him and that it has never let him down. I've got a buddy with a bushmaster and his always works too.
     
  8. Nov 20, 2011 at 7:08 PM
    #48
    JDCPA

    JDCPA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2008
    Member:
    #10777
    Messages:
    931
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    SW FL
    Vehicle:
    09 5 Lug Access Cab SR5
    Curt Hitch and etrailer.com wiring harness.
    Not trying to bust your chops but this new chart doesn't list Bushmaster either. Instead you tell usthat not only do I find the Bushmaster to be a dependable rifle you apparently have a friend that has the same experience that I do. Do you have any actual experience with a Bushy?

    The "Mil-Spec" standards for the M-16/AR-15 rifles are over 30 years old! Don't you think it just might be possible that manufacturing methods, design features and materials used might possible been improved since then?

    The U.S. military seems to think so. The M-16/AR-15 was not permitted to be part of the recent competition for their new assault rifle. The FN SCAR won that competition to replace the M-16/AR-15 platform. The M-16/AR-15 is going the way of the Springfield 1903, the Garand M-1 and the Springfield M-14, to surplus.

    YMMV
     
  9. Nov 21, 2011 at 4:36 AM
    #49
    Polymerhead

    Polymerhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2010
    Member:
    #44737
    Messages:
    4,800
    Gender:
    Male
    Missouri
    Vehicle:
    '18 TRD Limited Inferno...Tundra!
    Not disagreeing with your opinion, but I think your info is outdated here - the 5.56 SCAR SOCOM project was cancelled, and I don't think the SCAR has a chance to replace the M4 as general issue. Yes, the M4 will eventually be replaced, but not in the next 2 or 3 years and not by the 5.56 SCAR.
     
  10. Nov 21, 2011 at 6:13 AM
    #50
    Zombie Runner

    Zombie Runner Are these black helicopters for me?

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2008
    Member:
    #5246
    Messages:
    15,070
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Wichita Falls, TX
    Vehicle:
    2011 taco, sport 4x4
    oil change...
    look at the names that refused to participate in it: Bushmaster, Armalite, DPMS...
    I personally like to make informed purchases. It seems to me like those that dont want to participate hope to keep making sales based purely on their "good" name to uniformed consumers :thumbsup: YMMV
     
  11. Dec 8, 2011 at 8:20 PM
    #51
    StZu

    StZu [OP] Where the White Women At?

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2010
    Member:
    #28795
    Messages:
    1,503
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Richard
    Dallas Texas
    Vehicle:
    18 Super White TRD Offroad
    Level 8 Wheels, Bilstien/Eibach lift, 2" aal, blacked out rear bumper, AC drain hose relocation, sound deadening 4 doors and back wall, amp/speaker upgrade, 10" daytona sub, LED interior lights.
    Finished!
    Parts:
    DPMS stripped lower
    Spikes LPK
    DSA Buffer spring assembly
    Magpul MOE stock, grip, forearm
    Magpul trigger guard
    Palmetto State Armory hammer forged lightweight FN barrel, upper

    [​IMG]

    waiting for magpul BUIS, using bushnell TRS 25 with UTG riser for now.
     
  12. Dec 8, 2011 at 8:32 PM
    #52
    jflan

    jflan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2008
    Member:
    #11901
    Messages:
    1,017
    Vancouver, WA
    Vehicle:
    09 Access 4x4 2.7L manual SR5
    SnugTop SuperSport Sportsman keyless cap Weathertech mats - OEM skidplate - OEM hitch
    Looks good.
    Time to go make some noise.
     
  13. Dec 9, 2011 at 6:02 AM
    #53
    Zombie Runner

    Zombie Runner Are these black helicopters for me?

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2008
    Member:
    #5246
    Messages:
    15,070
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Wichita Falls, TX
    Vehicle:
    2011 taco, sport 4x4
    oil change...
    I really like the FDE parts :cool:
     
  14. Dec 9, 2011 at 7:30 PM
    #54
    wileyC

    wileyC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2011
    Member:
    #65685
    Messages:
    3,198
    Gender:
    Male
    Centerville, OH
    Vehicle:
    2012 PreRunner Double Cab TRD Sport
    looks great OP!

    time for range report :D
     
  15. Dec 10, 2011 at 8:55 AM
    #55
    StZu

    StZu [OP] Where the White Women At?

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2010
    Member:
    #28795
    Messages:
    1,503
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Richard
    Dallas Texas
    Vehicle:
    18 Super White TRD Offroad
    Level 8 Wheels, Bilstien/Eibach lift, 2" aal, blacked out rear bumper, AC drain hose relocation, sound deadening 4 doors and back wall, amp/speaker upgrade, 10" daytona sub, LED interior lights.
    Waiting for my BUIS, then off to the range!
     

Products Discussed in

To Top