Getting a Gun

How I hate the judge.....

And I don't like the idea of a gun in my truck all the time cause even if its cheap and I'm not out much money its the fact is that the robber now has my gun registered under my name and is now armed. Even in mt where we can literally do anything with guns we still have break ins. But I solved leaving the gun behind in the truck by getting a ccw permit.

But I do think having a gun around a kid is a serious thing, when the time is right show your kid how to deal with guns and to respect them. I grew up around guns and was taught more than I can remember how to handle them. I think everyone needs to know how to use firearms and not to be scared around them but see them as a tool to respect.

 

I agree with knowing how to handle a gun. I was raised the same way. I also have my ccw but i work in schools and cannot have a gun on any school campus so when i clock out and get into my truck i know where my gun well be. I usually an gone multiple nights of the week so my truck just sits at my work. My work is located in a "bad" neighborhood so i don't want glace my glock in the truck.

 

Didn't this change with the open carry ban?? Pretty sure now even 1 round in a mag is considered a "loaded firearm" even if it is kept in a separate locked area than the gun itself. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I am almost positive on this. Ammo must be kept separate from mags and the firearm with mags (not inserted) must be locked in a container other than a locking glove box.

I do loaded open carry in CA only when traveling to and from work. I have yet to be pulled over while doing this, but even though its legal, I imagine its either going to be a very easy going experience... or a very very bad one

 

Nahh.

Open carry has always had some nuances where the magazine is considered a "part" of the gun, so concealing a magazine while UOC results in a PC12025 violation, but that did not change with the OC ban.

There is not and never has been a prohibition on ammunition in any way so long as it is not "in a position to be fired" or in a magazine "attached to the gun".
Some of this is from case law... specifically, a shotgun was being transported with shell in a sidesaddle rig. Court found him not guilty and ruled that the ammunition needed to be in a position to be fired... so that clarified the earlier "attached to" language.


Most gun shops will tell you that the ammo and gun must be separate and that the magazines must be empty.
Turner's Chino Hills will even tell you that the gun must be in a locked container in the trunk and the ammunition must be in a locked container and "preferably in the glove box"

Wow... I need a bigger glove box

I have no idea where this originated. It's been the standard story for decades... I remember hearing as a kid that a gun could not be transported in "operable condition"
So the FUD runs deep and old, and new laws such as the OC ban do nothing but add fuel to the fire of "made up" laws.


Rule of thumb... when someone tells you that something is illegal, insist that they cite the PC supporting their statement.
If they can't, it is most likely not illegal.

Sometimes they will counter with "show me where it says that it's legal!"

Doesn't work that way... That which is not prohibited is permitted.
The only time the PC defines something as "legal" is if it is an exemption to something that is illegal, such as the PC12026 exemptions to PC12025 (unloaded carry within a locked container is still concealed carry, but PC12026 makes it legal), or any one of the 32 exemptions to the high capacity magazine law.