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U.S. Soldier Survives Being Shot 4 Times By Taliban Machine Gun!!!

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by SGT Taco, Sep 28, 2012.

  1. Sep 29, 2012 at 3:21 PM
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    I totally agree with ya. Even as a FMF Corpsman all my training was in survival not getting shot the hell up because of an unwise decisison. When you are shot at you return fire, reevaluate situation, and decide on next steps - not run down a mountain. I'm glad he is ok, but training should have kicked in, plus why isn't his sling around his body during this video. Also, noticed that he has the helmet cam - thus why the idiot was keeping his head up to record the action - what a turd!

    I don't know how they do it in the Army, but all of my Marines were trained in TCCC and a 1/3 were CLS guys. As a Doc my job is to go get the wounded or figure out the way to do it safely without more casualties. My job is to put my life on the line for my Marines or anyone else who needs help - not be a complete idiot about it.
     
  2. Sep 29, 2012 at 3:46 PM
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    Everyone brace themselves, Im going to say something very controversial: This guy is an idiot.

    He moved from a tactically sound position to a tactically retarded one. I dont know what he was thinking at first but starting at about 1:12 he was thinking "oh fuck that was a bad idea." He didnt coordinate with the rest of his platoon, didnt analyze the terrain ahead of him, and clearly didnt have a plan of attack beyond "go forward and hope for the best."

    Now his squad leader will have to decide weather to give up their cover and risk his and his squad's lives to save this idiot. Apparently the squad leader made a similar tactical blunder and chose not to save his buddy.

    Worst of all he posted this on youtube and claimed to be "saving his squad." I dont think he was brave, I think he was lucky.

    This situation is what is commonly refered to as FUBAR.


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  3. Sep 29, 2012 at 9:24 PM
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    This guy was not John Rambo by know means. But unless you were on the side of the mountain working, you can't really say that he was wrong for doing what he did. Maybe he was one of the lucky fuckers who was told in AIT that he was getting shipped to Afghan with the rest of his unit after he graduates, or maybe he is the guy that was told to advance to cover, or maybe he is an idiot. None of us will know because we were not there.

    Seriously, for everyone that HAS been shot at, think about how you felt that first time. Then what did you do wrong/right before the adrenaline wore off. Probably you reacted better after your sixth or seventh fire-fight, then you did during your first or second. Other then that everyone is just talking about what they do when they get shot. All I'm saying is think before you type. Problem solved, problem staying solved. that guy from 4th ID is not leading the way,
     
  4. Sep 29, 2012 at 9:40 PM
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    I find it absolutely fucking ridiculous that this guy had no comms with his fellow soldiers.

    Is this common? are all our guys running around screaming "Im hit" when they have been shot.


    Im glad this man survived. That was fucking intense to say the least. Bullets were landing all over the place.
     
  5. Sep 29, 2012 at 10:13 PM
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  6. Sep 30, 2012 at 11:56 AM
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    I have no right to say anything bad about people in combat but i am morally obligated to.

    I am no expert on rifles but maybe shooting at a spec about half a mile away from his weapon was not something I would do. I have not shot a rifle in probably 15 years or so but in the video it looks like he just "pops off a few rounds" in general direction. Maybe it is not the best idea to fire bullets into middle of nowhere in the mountains when target(s) are covered by both terrain, distance and building. Just a thought.

    I also have no idea of why he ran down the hill in the first place. It was not like he had to run 100 feet and target was there. He ran 100 feet and target was still half a mile away so he just exposed himself needlessly to fire.

    I spent a year in mountains of tibet surrounded by mongols who did not want us there. I was a kid at the time being stationed at a military base. In terms of combat... there is no way anyone could benefit from running down the hills. All I remember were 45 degree slopes full of granite where anything that was not red stuck out far far away. I remember watching a fox or a wolf chasing what looked like a rabbit. I was standing at the bottom of the hill looking up probably half a mile and it was red red red red ... white grey rabbit... red red red red white grey predator. Bad situation to be in if you are a soldier. Even worse if you have to run down the hill because there is absolutely no cover at all.
     
  7. Sep 30, 2012 at 12:01 PM
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    I'd say he needs to unfuck his situation before thinking about touching the IFAK. Return fire and get to cover before starting self or buddy aid.
     
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    What a fucking dumbass. I have done some stupid shit but never will I go out into the open from behind cover down a hillside. And honestly, what the hell was the point in shooting that fast at that range? I am glad he finally decided to move to cover after being shot. Then he just sits there saying "I'm hit" when he should be performing self-aid.

    I am glad the guy survives but he really needs to improve his training. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity.

    And before some of you assholes say, "You don't know what its like...," I have been through 5 deployments, 4 of which are combat deployments, crossed the Iraqi border in 2003, been blown up four times and been shot at more times than I can count.
     
  9. Sep 30, 2012 at 12:58 PM
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    The guy wasn't thinking right. Here's my Monday night QB:

    Mag change was horrible, put his rifle down to do it.
    Kit was totally unprepared, judging by the way he fumbles the magazine.
    Wasn't lobbing 203 from the elevated position like he should have.
    Wasn't using his optic like he should have. That's a TA31 ACOG, ranges out to 800m. If he had been using his optic effectively instead of just shooting from the hip he would have properly engaged the enemy.
    Didn't use his teammates to his advantage, you always move in buddy teams with at least one guy giving suppressive fire.
    Just took off down the hill without a point of direction to a superior observation/engagement area. Realized it about half way down and moves to the big ass rock that he should have been moving to all along.
    Once "hit", instead of checking himself for injuries, he just starts yelling, "I'm hit." So now he's bringing another man down the path he just ran and the enemy has effectively ranged, all for nothing. He is now actually in a nice position to support that rifle and use his optic as it was meant to be used.
    Why he left an elevated position in the first place I have no idea.

    Now before I get jumped on, I'm former 3rd Group SF team guy, not a support guy. Spent many a time up and down those mountains in Afghanistan doing exactly what this guy was trying to do...engage and eliminate savages. I was there back in 05/06/07 when there weren't as many troops as we have now.

    The reason his mistakes should be discussed on here is because there are soldiers on this forum who are over there now and they need to be made aware of not only what the guy did wrong, but what should have been the correct action.

    I agree that we're being hard on him and it's easy to do when you're not there. However, I saw many young men killed over there because they just didn't understand proper SOP's and lacked leadership and direction so instead they'd take it upon themselves (like this young man) and sometimes it'd cost them and their teammates their lives. There were a few times our ODA had to come out and help some infantry units and we were dumbfounded when we watched them in action.

    To all of you still over there the only advice I can give you is take well aimed shots and relax, if you're going to die you don't know it until it happens anyways. Just lost an old teammate a couple days ago over there, so kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out.

    To those that have served, thanks.
     

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