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Hella 500 Issue

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by zomg, Aug 10, 2013.

  1. Aug 10, 2013 at 8:09 PM
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    zomg

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    Hello all,
    I have 3 Hella 500 driving lights installed on my Avid light bar that were working fine until today. I don't use them much, so I periodically test if they still function correctly.

    So, today I was installing some new door speakers & after I flipped the light switch out of habit. All the lights came on as usual. I started fiddling with my stereo for awhile & forgot to turn them off.

    Well, I have been putting off changing the crappy Hella switch to an OEM fog light switch for months, & I decided to do it today. However, before starting the swap I looked at the switch & it was on, but the lights were off.

    Toggling the switch did nothing. I checked all the wiring & fuses, but i did not see any exposed wire or blown fuses. I can hear the relay clicking when I flip the switch, but still get nothing from the lights. I completed the switch change witht the same results; clicking relay with no lights. Any ideas?
     
  2. Aug 10, 2013 at 8:11 PM
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    Swap out the fuse even if it looks OK.
     
  3. Aug 10, 2013 at 8:13 PM
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    I had a problem with mine aswell......turns out that the wire that sends power to the lights was disconnected.....the switch itself was still recieving power though, so it would light up with no light being turned on
     
  4. Aug 10, 2013 at 8:20 PM
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    The inline fuse on the power wire did have a little melted solder stuck to the side even though the fuse looked intact. I'll change it tomorrow morning. Thanks.
     
  5. Aug 11, 2013 at 1:33 AM
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    Let us know what you find.
     
  6. Aug 11, 2013 at 7:40 AM
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    I have a question. I am going to change the light switch to OEM. any where i can find the wiring diagram for it? Please help.
     
  7. Aug 13, 2013 at 1:40 PM
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    Changing the fuse did not have any effect. Any other possibilities? I don't really want to remove everything to go over it with a fine toothed comb. Maybe if they were light force or piaa.
     
  8. Aug 13, 2013 at 1:50 PM
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    Eh, see my Build Thread sig link. Too many mods to list.
    Check your switch with a volt meter and see if it's even passing voltage when toggeled. Rule that out.
     
  9. Aug 14, 2013 at 2:58 PM
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    The switch seems to work fine. I can hear the relay tripping when I flip the switch.
     
  10. Aug 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM
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    Well, I finally had time to go through the wiring & fix the problem. All the wires looked fine & everything tested ok until I got to the battery power wire. It looked fine on the outside, so I replaced the inline fuse connection, but still nothing. To get the lights on again I just replaced the power wire & used the new fuse. It seems that the wire broke somewhere inside the insulation. Weird because there were no hard bends & plenty of slack.
     
  11. Aug 19, 2013 at 2:16 PM
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    Yep those fuse holders are only stout enough to handle two lights, anything more than that and the fuse holder will melt and not make contact on the fuse. I beat my head against a wall about this too. Installed a fuse/fuse holder for each pair and it has been fine since.
     
  12. Aug 19, 2013 at 2:21 PM
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    Well shit. Should I replace the power wire with 12 gauge to match the new inline fuse?
     
  13. Aug 19, 2013 at 2:22 PM
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    I would assume increasing the gauge would allow you to run one fuse, however I haven't tried any of that.

    Edit: if you try it, make sure you are doing the ground as well.
     
  14. Aug 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM
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    Can you check the switch?
    What kind of switch you use?
    I have seen the switch melt down internal.
     
  15. Aug 19, 2013 at 6:03 PM
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    Dude, I think you missed a few posts.
     

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