1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

What exactly does a Scan Gauge allow you to do.

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by luk8272, Mar 27, 2008.

  1. Mar 27, 2008 at 7:47 AM
    #1
    luk8272

    luk8272 [OP] Poodoo

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2008
    Member:
    #4929
    Messages:
    5,955
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Lucas
    Southern Louisiana
    Vehicle:
    07 Silver4dr. 4x4, V6 Shortbed
    5% Tint, Bug flector, vent Visors, Removed secondary air filter, Rear Spring TSB w/ Wheeler's Add A Leaf HD Pack, Icon 2.0 rear shocks, Toytec 3" lift up front with Total Chaos UCA's, Debadged, Billet Grille,TRD Offroad rims/17x9 Pro comp 6001 rims, Duratracs 265/75/16 or 285/70/17, Fog light anytime mod, Tailgate hose clamp mod, Pro-dry AFE filter. Extended Differential Breather, ABS on/off, 6000k LEDs from CSJumper, heads/fogs, ScanguageII, Devil horns, Devil horns on third brake light, Mounted 60" Highlift, Mounted Tool Box, Wet Okole Front/Rear Seat Covers, TW sticker, Midland Handheld CB,Painted engine cover, Revenge Fab Sliders, ARE Topper, Weather tech Floorliners, Camper shell, ultimate headlight upgrade. URD -3° exhaust cam gears, .5" XTP Intake spacer. Custom dents.
    Is it just an aditional gauge or does it actually allow you to change certain aspects of your vehicle. I have noticed some ppl saying the adjusted it for thier tire size, is that just on that gauge or does it adjust your vehicles computer. What would I need to purchase to adjust my air fuel ratio? Is their anything out their that allows me to adjust the shifts on my transmission. I live in the south and assume that most vehicles are built to comply with more strenious laws in other states like for instance the secondary air filter. Also it is a very damp climate here in louisiana unlike cali.
     
  2. Mar 27, 2008 at 7:51 AM
    #2
    Hotdog

    Hotdog My hair is all natural Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2007
    Member:
    #872
    Messages:
    10,245
    First Name:
    Hotdog
    Vehicle:
    2007 PreRunner SR5 Double Cab
    Wet Okole Underwear
    To adjust your AF ratio, you'll need a wideband sensor and the MAF calibrator from URD.

    I think that the scan gauge is only a reader.

    Your shifts should change according to your driving habits.

    Louisiana does have emissions testing. They just make sure that you have your cats there and that everything else looks ok. I doubt they care about an intake or even notice that you have long tube headers.
     
  3. Mar 27, 2008 at 8:12 AM
    #3
    luk8272

    luk8272 [OP] Poodoo

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2008
    Member:
    #4929
    Messages:
    5,955
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Lucas
    Southern Louisiana
    Vehicle:
    07 Silver4dr. 4x4, V6 Shortbed
    5% Tint, Bug flector, vent Visors, Removed secondary air filter, Rear Spring TSB w/ Wheeler's Add A Leaf HD Pack, Icon 2.0 rear shocks, Toytec 3" lift up front with Total Chaos UCA's, Debadged, Billet Grille,TRD Offroad rims/17x9 Pro comp 6001 rims, Duratracs 265/75/16 or 285/70/17, Fog light anytime mod, Tailgate hose clamp mod, Pro-dry AFE filter. Extended Differential Breather, ABS on/off, 6000k LEDs from CSJumper, heads/fogs, ScanguageII, Devil horns, Devil horns on third brake light, Mounted 60" Highlift, Mounted Tool Box, Wet Okole Front/Rear Seat Covers, TW sticker, Midland Handheld CB,Painted engine cover, Revenge Fab Sliders, ARE Topper, Weather tech Floorliners, Camper shell, ultimate headlight upgrade. URD -3° exhaust cam gears, .5" XTP Intake spacer. Custom dents.
    I was wondering about getting the tranny to have some firmer shifts, more precise. I am having a difficult time going from a 72 muscle car to this tacoma. I love the truck and have also owned an 02 tacoma but this is the first time I am trying to do anything to this vehicle. I love the fact that the old car shifts firm and was looking for that here. I am not removing the cats just looking to get the vehicle set up for living down here. Like when racing at different tracks you need to make a few passes and adjust your vehicle for the elevation and weather conditions, atleast on a carb. That is why I am assuming if I adjust the AF on this truck it should perform slightly better.
     
  4. Mar 27, 2008 at 8:22 AM
    #4
    RedruM29

    RedruM29 Blinking Car Mod...

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2008
    Member:
    #4594
    Messages:
    607
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kyle
    Nor☆Cal
    Vehicle:
    08 trd sport 4x4
    Just enough, and never enough
    if you don't have an s/c i wouldn't worry about the a/f. make sure you keep the a/f at a safe ratio or you could burn your motor up.
     
  5. Mar 27, 2008 at 1:17 PM
    #5
    luk8272

    luk8272 [OP] Poodoo

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2008
    Member:
    #4929
    Messages:
    5,955
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Lucas
    Southern Louisiana
    Vehicle:
    07 Silver4dr. 4x4, V6 Shortbed
    5% Tint, Bug flector, vent Visors, Removed secondary air filter, Rear Spring TSB w/ Wheeler's Add A Leaf HD Pack, Icon 2.0 rear shocks, Toytec 3" lift up front with Total Chaos UCA's, Debadged, Billet Grille,TRD Offroad rims/17x9 Pro comp 6001 rims, Duratracs 265/75/16 or 285/70/17, Fog light anytime mod, Tailgate hose clamp mod, Pro-dry AFE filter. Extended Differential Breather, ABS on/off, 6000k LEDs from CSJumper, heads/fogs, ScanguageII, Devil horns, Devil horns on third brake light, Mounted 60" Highlift, Mounted Tool Box, Wet Okole Front/Rear Seat Covers, TW sticker, Midland Handheld CB,Painted engine cover, Revenge Fab Sliders, ARE Topper, Weather tech Floorliners, Camper shell, ultimate headlight upgrade. URD -3° exhaust cam gears, .5" XTP Intake spacer. Custom dents.
    Can you take it from vehicle to vehicle?
    It mentions being able to save info to send to your computer (in vehicle) whats that about?
    It also talks about using the internet to correct problems, then wouldn't it be possible to write programs?
    Do you have to mount it in your vehicle or could you leave the wire plugged into the OBDII port and just unplug the unit and remove it? I don't car for the look of it inside the vehicle.
    Does it affect any of your factory gauges,ie your trip or Odometer, I know you can adjust the sg for tire size but does that adjust your vehicles tach, speedo, or trips?
    Finally for those of you that have the sgII is it worth it for the long run or is it something you purchase and kinda forget about?
     
  6. Mar 29, 2008 at 7:37 AM
    #6
    RedruM29

    RedruM29 Blinking Car Mod...

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2008
    Member:
    #4594
    Messages:
    607
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kyle
    Nor☆Cal
    Vehicle:
    08 trd sport 4x4
    Just enough, and never enough
    well the SG2 is a soft code reader so it won't change anything you don't want it to do. yes you can put it in different vehicles. you use the internet to receive codes that may help you understand what is going on with the ecu ie: cel light. yes you have to mount it...... do you want it flyin around the truck, yes leave it in the OBDII port thats how it works, no it shouldn't affect the gauges unless you change something in the computer then you're ecu will change said gauge on its own sliding scale of however many percent you are off.:)
     
  7. Mar 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM
    #7
    concrete jedi

    concrete jedi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2007
    Member:
    #3142
    Messages:
    2,734
    Rochester N.Y
    Vehicle:
    06 Tacoma 4 door indigo blue
    Broken and scratched tailgate, cracked rear tail light lens, coffee stain in driver seat.
    Got to remember that this is a truck and not a 1972 muscle car, it won't perform like the car because it's not designed to, the apples to oranges theory. Once that settles in ( I know it's going to be difficult ) then all will be well. A little time, and a few moments seeing the truck work like a truck, carrying loads, showing the torque, it will come to you. :)
     
  8. Mar 29, 2008 at 10:24 PM
    #8
    luk8272

    luk8272 [OP] Poodoo

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2008
    Member:
    #4929
    Messages:
    5,955
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Lucas
    Southern Louisiana
    Vehicle:
    07 Silver4dr. 4x4, V6 Shortbed
    5% Tint, Bug flector, vent Visors, Removed secondary air filter, Rear Spring TSB w/ Wheeler's Add A Leaf HD Pack, Icon 2.0 rear shocks, Toytec 3" lift up front with Total Chaos UCA's, Debadged, Billet Grille,TRD Offroad rims/17x9 Pro comp 6001 rims, Duratracs 265/75/16 or 285/70/17, Fog light anytime mod, Tailgate hose clamp mod, Pro-dry AFE filter. Extended Differential Breather, ABS on/off, 6000k LEDs from CSJumper, heads/fogs, ScanguageII, Devil horns, Devil horns on third brake light, Mounted 60" Highlift, Mounted Tool Box, Wet Okole Front/Rear Seat Covers, TW sticker, Midland Handheld CB,Painted engine cover, Revenge Fab Sliders, ARE Topper, Weather tech Floorliners, Camper shell, ultimate headlight upgrade. URD -3° exhaust cam gears, .5" XTP Intake spacer. Custom dents.
    Each vehicle has it benifits so I only use the truck for hauling loads, and offroading. I don't want it to be fast just efficent. I find that the transmission is kinda slugish and I wanted to firm it up slightly. I didn't know if the scan gauge was doing some of the same things that the programers were doing. Thanks for the info I get lots of good advise here. Much appreciated.
     
  9. Mar 30, 2008 at 5:28 AM
    #9
    maverick491

    maverick491 Towing Guru

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2007
    Member:
    #1462
    Messages:
    1,102
    Gender:
    Male
    South Jersey
    Vehicle:
    07 4x4 Access Cab, TRD off road, 6 cyl, 6 spd
    Activator III brake controller, Extang Fulltilt toneau, Factory bed mat, Extra D-rings in the bed, 2ndary air filter removed, Garmin Ique GPS, Eco-2, AFE Pro Dry-s filter, USASPEC PA12-toy, Pioneer 3-way speakers, SG II on Blendmount, Gulf States Alarm added.
    The scangauge is a a read only device, for lack of a better description. It takes and interperates information sent to it by the ECU through the OBDII port. It does not send anything back to the truck, with the exception of being able to clear a trouble code like any other code reader.

    To adjust the speedo, it only does this on the scangauge. It takes the signal it gets from the ECU and then factors in a correction factor before it outputs to the SG display. It functions the same way with the fuel usage numbers.

    This will not allow you to alter anything with yout tranny, or any other part of the operation of the truck.

    It is a great tool, and I personally like having the real time fuel usage data, as well as a volt meter and intake temp gauge, etc. So for what it is capable of doing I feel it was money well spent for me, but I do not believe that it would be money well spent for you as it does not do what I believe you are looking for it to do.

    With regards to the URD maf calibrator. 90% of what it is able to change is in open loop (I think open loop, which means above 4500 rpm) You will see very little benefit unless you drive you truck that way. I was looking into buying one myself, untill I realized that in the year I have owned my truck I think I hit 4500 rpms once. Not knoncking the MAF calibrator in the least, I think it is a great product, and it does what it claims, but you kind of need to drive your truck like a 72 muscle car to get the benefit of it.

    Sorry, I don't really have any constructive advice for you, I just wanted to lay out the capabilities of the two devices in question so you could make an informed decision before laying out the cash for them.

    Regards,
     
  10. Mar 30, 2008 at 9:16 PM
    #10
    luk8272

    luk8272 [OP] Poodoo

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2008
    Member:
    #4929
    Messages:
    5,955
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Lucas
    Southern Louisiana
    Vehicle:
    07 Silver4dr. 4x4, V6 Shortbed
    5% Tint, Bug flector, vent Visors, Removed secondary air filter, Rear Spring TSB w/ Wheeler's Add A Leaf HD Pack, Icon 2.0 rear shocks, Toytec 3" lift up front with Total Chaos UCA's, Debadged, Billet Grille,TRD Offroad rims/17x9 Pro comp 6001 rims, Duratracs 265/75/16 or 285/70/17, Fog light anytime mod, Tailgate hose clamp mod, Pro-dry AFE filter. Extended Differential Breather, ABS on/off, 6000k LEDs from CSJumper, heads/fogs, ScanguageII, Devil horns, Devil horns on third brake light, Mounted 60" Highlift, Mounted Tool Box, Wet Okole Front/Rear Seat Covers, TW sticker, Midland Handheld CB,Painted engine cover, Revenge Fab Sliders, ARE Topper, Weather tech Floorliners, Camper shell, ultimate headlight upgrade. URD -3° exhaust cam gears, .5" XTP Intake spacer. Custom dents.
    Maverick Thanks that was some very useful info for me to think on and I agree with you, I never hit those types of rpm I tend to stay under 2000 rpm. I was looking for some way to increase my mileage or atleast a very accurate view of what it is now since I will be installing a toytec 3" lift later this week followed by some 285/75/ may be a 16 or 17 wheel depending on price. but thanks again.
     
  11. Mar 31, 2008 at 4:49 AM
    #11
    Roland

    Roland My other ride has sails

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Member:
    #4149
    Messages:
    2,398
    Gender:
    Male
    Rhode Island
    Vehicle:
    06 Impulse Red I4 2WD Access Cab
    UnderCover Tonneau, Bed mat, Bug Deflector, aFe Pro Dry S, Secondary Air Filter removed, Synthetic 5W-30 oil, Scanguage II with blendmount, WeatherTech floorliners, Toyota seat covers, Installed OEM intermittent wipers, TacomaWorld sticker, Defrost without AC mod, Hidden Hitch
    The scan gauge actually can do both of those things. Because it gives real time consumption data it can help you modify your driving habits to maximize your mileage. It's amazing the effect on fuel consumption the smallest movement of the throttle makes.
     
  12. Mar 31, 2008 at 8:27 AM
    #12
    luk8272

    luk8272 [OP] Poodoo

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2008
    Member:
    #4929
    Messages:
    5,955
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Lucas
    Southern Louisiana
    Vehicle:
    07 Silver4dr. 4x4, V6 Shortbed
    5% Tint, Bug flector, vent Visors, Removed secondary air filter, Rear Spring TSB w/ Wheeler's Add A Leaf HD Pack, Icon 2.0 rear shocks, Toytec 3" lift up front with Total Chaos UCA's, Debadged, Billet Grille,TRD Offroad rims/17x9 Pro comp 6001 rims, Duratracs 265/75/16 or 285/70/17, Fog light anytime mod, Tailgate hose clamp mod, Pro-dry AFE filter. Extended Differential Breather, ABS on/off, 6000k LEDs from CSJumper, heads/fogs, ScanguageII, Devil horns, Devil horns on third brake light, Mounted 60" Highlift, Mounted Tool Box, Wet Okole Front/Rear Seat Covers, TW sticker, Midland Handheld CB,Painted engine cover, Revenge Fab Sliders, ARE Topper, Weather tech Floorliners, Camper shell, ultimate headlight upgrade. URD -3° exhaust cam gears, .5" XTP Intake spacer. Custom dents.
    I'll vouch for that I have just driven 340 miles to and from work but this time I wasn't in a hurry so I knocked off about 5 to 10 mph and achieved 24.7 mpg in my truck. I was trying to duplicate an Anomaly, I calculated a 29.8 mpg the other day after fueling up and driving almost 300 miles highway, however it was a weekday and after midnight time early am hours when I got home.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top