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JBL question

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by 12TRDTacoma, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. Sep 25, 2013 at 9:19 PM
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    I am attempting to swap tweeters and run some components in the truck instead of the stocker crap. Will I be able to run them without an external amp yes or no. If no is the case I will just get a JL cleansweep amp and call it good because apparently that amp will hook right up without any additional crap to run correct?
     
  2. Sep 25, 2013 at 9:39 PM
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    JL Cleansweep is not an amplifier, it is a signal processor to be used before amplifiers
     
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    Oh right right. Will the cleansweep work for aftermarket speakers while still retaining stock headunit and amp?
     
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    JL clean sweep is not necessary. at least not in the avg setup.

    Buy some good components and youll be all set no amps or processors needed.

    Now if you want some more bass , then yes a amp and additional sub are a must
     
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    Yes, you can swap out the door speakers without adding an amp. However, the improvement in sound might not be what you're hoping for. Don't get me wrong, there will be an improvement in sound quality. It just might not be as big of an improvement as you're hoping for. In the past, I've experienced a bigger improvement by replacing the factory head unit and leaving the stock speakers in place, than from just replacing the speakers.

    Like others have said, the JL CleanSweep is only used if you want to keep the factory head unit, and power your speakers with an amp. Since your current plan is to only switch out the speakers, the CleanSweep is unnecessary.
     
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    If that so is the case why is it that everytime I attempt to swap out the fronts the tweeters and woofers sound like absolute crap? I am attempting to put in a kicker component setup in the front and funny enough, my passenger rear mid has totally stopped working. I don't know if the channel is blown on the amp or if the speaker driver is just fried. I pulled apart the door and it looks whole.
     
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    If you want better sound you have to replace the whole thing
     
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    there is no way to tell why some speakers are not working without testing things in the vehicle. buy a cheap multimeter and learn how to use it, it will answer far more questions than strangers on the internet can
     
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    I know how to use a multimeter quite well. I have to agree it will answer questions way better then the internet ever could. I just want to know if the Cleansweep signal processor would allow me to run aftermarket speakers while still retaining the rest of the stuff stock. I am not looking for an OH MY GOD difference in sound. I am looking for increased reliability in the integrity of the speakers at higher fidelities. I like my music loud in the truck.
     
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    The clean sweep should help with the sound quality. Are you planning on using the stock amp or an aftermarket amp? The reason I ask is because the clean sweep was designed to be used with aftermarket ampliphiers. I'm not familiar with how the JBL stock ampliphier is wired, but the clean sweep might not work with it. Hopefully you already know, or someone else can chime in and educate us. I know in my previous car, an Acura, that the clean sweep would not have worked with the stock Bose amp. The clean sweep has speaker wire inputs and RCA type outputs. In my Acura, the stock Bose ampliphier required speaker wire inputs.
     
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    Right, and Bose is not wired the same way a traditional stereo to speaker setup is. I am planning on using the stock JBL amp. I am not looking for a fantastic over the top sound quality I just want a nice increase over stock that's all. And a much clearer vocal range, definitely looking for some adjustability and the ability to toy with an EQ maybe too. I would be able to just cut the stock speaker wire going to the JBL amp and prewire it into the cleansweep. I know other people have done it before. I just don't want to spend too much money into the system only to find out it won't work.
     
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    Perfect, you already checked out how to wire it all in. I'm just unfamiliar with the JBL systems in Tacomas and wanted to give you a heads up just in case it was wired funky like how Bose does it.

    I hear ya, audio equipment can get expensive very quickly and it sucks when it doesn't work right. Did you look at any of AudioControl's stuff? The LC6i, for instance, is cheaper on Amazon than the CleanSweep.
     
  13. Oct 2, 2013 at 5:14 AM
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    Something to keep in mind here and why you really need a processor with de eq to make this any better is the jbl system is a matched system. To make their not so great of speakers sound better they build an eq into the amp to tune it to sound the way they want for the application. Even when your 3 band eq on the deck is flat, the output from the amp is far from it. You want a true flat signal coming out and then you can tweak it to sound the way you want. Ideally you would get a Audison bit ten or something along the lines of it, that way you can de eq the factory signal coming in and then tweak the eq to your liking. Not to mention it will take care of crossovers (5ch) and time delay. Basically...having a "matched" system like this makes things a little more difficult to just replace
    a single component (like speakers) and expect an improvement.
     
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    I have actually not looked at Audiocontrol's stuff at all but my overall goal is to have some good sounding aftermarket stuff but still retain factory controls and factory appearance up front. I really miss my Pioneer AVIC X920BT at this point!

    Here is the real issue and reasoning behind my replacing of the speakers. I had been hearing random popping in songs out of the passenger side stock tweeter and started hearing it even on my side of the tweeter, so I swapped it all out for some kicker components which obviously came with the tweeter replacements. Well I did it finally and got around to it, wired it all right and then I went to run the system and listen to music, let alone behold I STILL get popping! I know the tweeters are fine now, so that tells me one of two things

    1- Either the amp is fucked or..
    2- The stereo is borked and is clipping the signal somehow

    I used to run my system with my own EQ choice on the stereo side, then suddenly the audio quality started distorting and mainly popping. I haven't tried setting all the stuff flat but I shouldn't have to because when the truck was newer it never sounded like this! It's almost like I have a bad solder point or something in either the stereo or amp. I am almost leaning towards the amp though because I have heard they are straight garbage.
     
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    Bump to this one!
     

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