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Electronic Cigs

Discussion in 'Health' started by WTFaulkner, Mar 5, 2013.

  1. Apr 27, 2014 at 5:22 PM
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    eastcoastcowboy

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    I just went last Friday to one of the local shops specializing in these things. We have a few shops here, some retail locations and a couple working out of their homes. I chose a retail shop that I knew had been around for a few years, asked a couple questions about a starter kit to quit smoking, he was straight up about which ones he felt were good and bad.
    I left a happy camper after laying down $85 for two Kanger EVOD's and a 30ml bottle of 18mg juice.
    Good news is...haven't had a smoke since Friday night.
     
  2. Apr 28, 2014 at 10:15 AM
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    It's a trial and error hobby. There are tons of suppliers, and pretty much all of them carry the same or similar starter kits. Ego style battery, simple tanks, and juice on the shelf. That's how you get going with it. If you like it, you do more research and try more things.
     
  3. Apr 28, 2014 at 12:48 PM
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  4. Apr 29, 2014 at 12:21 PM
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  5. Apr 30, 2014 at 3:52 PM
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    mynewtoy

    mynewtoy I like men

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    the FDA is trying to shut down vaping as we know it now.

    they came out with their deeming proposal friday, that will effectively shut down all e-cigs execpt a maybe few cig-a-likes.

    we as vapers need to fight this. For more info please go here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/fda-regulations/
     
  6. Apr 30, 2014 at 9:28 PM
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    Just arrived home from picking up my first set up:

    Gear
    Itaste 3.0 express kit
    Aspire Nautilus tank

    Juice
    Beaus' Affliction 12mg
    Homebrew Rumple mintz 12mg

    Good heavens this is good.

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. Apr 30, 2014 at 9:31 PM
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    Biscuits

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    Looks like Big Tobacco's lobbyists have been hard at work.
     
  8. May 1, 2014 at 9:20 AM
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    I signed a petition a while ago and they responded. Here is the email from the director of the FDA:

    Regulation of Electronic Cigarettes by the FDA

    By Mitch Zeller, the Director of the Food and Drug Administration's Center for Tobacco Products.

    Thank you for your petition on electronic cigarettes.

    First things first: While we are seeking to regulate products like electronic cigarettes, the proposed regulation would not ban them.

    Some background, which you may already know: The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act that Congress passed in 2009 gave the FDA immediate authority to regulate certain tobacco products -- cigarettes, cigarette tobacco, roll-your-own tobacco, and smokeless tobacco -- under the Federal Food, Drug, & Cosmetic Act. And while it didn't apply right away to other tobacco products, such as electronic cigarettes, the law gave the FDA authority to cover those products through regulation.

    We've issued a proposed rule to allow the FDA to regulate those products in the April 25, 2014 issue of the Federal Register. Electronic cigarettes containing nicotine derived from tobacco would meet the statutory definition of "tobacco product" and so they'd be subject to the FD&C Act when the proposed rule is finalized.

    Now the petition states that sections 905 and 910 of the FD&C Act would "ban all e-cigarettes," and that's not true.

    If the FDA finalizes the rule in its current form, electronic cigarettes manufacturers will need authorization to sell products not commercially marketed as of February 15, 2007 -- but this doesn't mean these products would be banned. Sections 905 and 910 describe the applications and reports manufacturers will need to submit to sell their products.

    There will be two primary ways for tobacco products to obtain that authorization: either an application for "substantial equivalence," or an application for premarket approval.

    "Substantial equivalence" would ask manufacturers to compare their products to another product that was already commercially marketed by February 15, 2007 or that was previously found by FDA to be substantially equivalent -- though we acknowledge this may be challenging for electronic cigarettes. Second would be the premarket tobacco application, where a manufacturer submits information to the FDA establishing it would be "appropriate for the protection of public health" to allow the product to be marketed.

    We know that those applications may require time and resources to develop. That's why the FDA does not intend to take legal action against manufacturers for marketing their products without prior authorization until the FDA issues its decision on the application -- so long as the manufacturer gets its application in within two years and thirty days after the final rule is published. Our hope is to provide manufacturers flexibility as the FDA completes its review.

    So why are we seeking to regulate these products in the first place? As we discuss in the proposed rule, though all tobacco products are potentially harmful and potentially addictive, different categories of tobacco products may have the potential for varying effects on public health. There's still a lot we don't know about these products, and this rule will expand the amount of information available to the FDA and the public -- that's good for everyone.

    Some people believe that e-cigarettes may help smokers quit smoking and that switching from regular cigarettes to e-cigarettes may reduce exposure to harmful components and constituents in cigarette smoke. But again, we don't know enough to make that call. This rule would help us to continue to analyze the potential benefits and risks of e-cigarettes, including their impact on nonusers and on the population as a whole.

    It's important to remember that this rule isn't final yet, though. We're seeking comments on the proposed rule as to how e-cigarettes should be regulated based on the continuum of nicotine-delivering products, and the potential benefits and risks associated with e-cigarettes.

    The opportunity to comment on FDA's proposed rule is now open and comments are due on July 9, 2014. We encourage you to do so, and to provide any data and information you may have to support your comments.
     
  9. May 1, 2014 at 3:38 PM
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    yes i signed the same one but petitions aren't really going to do anything now. we all need to contact our local congressmen and senators and let them know how we feel about the FDA

    you can also join CASAA http://casaa.org/Become_a_Member.html

    they will have a call to action coming out soon letting us know how to fight this
     
  10. May 1, 2014 at 3:49 PM
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    Looks nice, particularly the homemade drip tip. Gives your setup a signature look.
     
  14. May 5, 2014 at 8:38 PM
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    Thanks for the pointers .
    I just grabbed this kit after doing some reviews . Seems like a good place to start .http://www.ecigcanadazone.com/shop/...KIT-With-10ML-Nicotine-Eliquid-PLUS-CASE.html

    Let me know what mods I gotta do :D
     
  15. May 5, 2014 at 11:48 PM
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    Fantastic explanation.
     
  16. May 12, 2014 at 6:37 PM
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    damn i didnt know vaps went this far in depth with mods and variations..

    ive skimmed through this thread quite a bit lately after finding myself interested in getting one. but i keep reading all your technical conversations and find myself lost haha anyone know of or have a recommendation for a basic starter? i know just like with everything, the more you get into it you find mods and get a better understanding of it. just looking to get started then go from there
     
  17. May 13, 2014 at 10:05 AM
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    Watch the above vids for some great explanations. Start with what you're comfortable with, and just go up from there. It's a trial-and-error hobby for sure.
     
  18. May 13, 2014 at 10:06 AM
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    eGo is a great starter, very easy to deal with. :)
     
  19. May 13, 2014 at 10:14 AM
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    Agreed. Skip the disposable garbage at the gas stations and go right for a nice simple eGo starter kit with a C4 tank. Get some tobacco flavored juice in a 12-18mg/ml dose and give it a whirl.
     
  20. May 13, 2014 at 10:18 AM
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    eGo is what I started with. I still use them. They're cheap and easy to use. I also like the Protank II, which fits on the eGo batteries.
     
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