2014 First time dealer issues

troublemaker · Jul 22, 2014

Long story short I bought a 2014 less then 2 months ago. On the weekend I installed a rough country leveling kit. I booked an alignment that Friday for Tuesday. Today I dropped the off for an alignment, seat belt buzzer turned off and the door buzzer turned down or off.

The seat belt buzzer got turned off, door buzzer the tech said theirs no way to turn it off or down. Is this true? The truck only got an alignment inspection as it came back "close enough". Heres my #

Toe- both sides .10*
Camber -both sides .9*
Caster Front 1.3*

Is this with in spec, Im slightly pissed that I got charged $90 to turn a buzzer off that took 5 mins and I had to take it back because they only did the passenger side at first.

chris4x4 · Jul 22, 2014

Caster should be over 2*, and the Camber should be lower than .5*. Toe seems high, and should be in the .05* range.

stump jumper · Jul 22, 2014

You are lucky they disabled it. Toyota corp instructed my dealer not too. I was pissed because the manual says it is a custom feature. Looking for some extenders in grey. I have seen black but grey for newer models.

troublemaker · Jul 22, 2014

Can anyone back Chris up or have the specs? I'm going in to raise heck and don't want to look like a retard.

sr5vic · Jul 22, 2014

He's also correct about the door buzzer/chime, it cannot be disabled.

troublemaker · Jul 22, 2014

I thought it could be turned down at least. I'm more concerned about the alignment

Sterdog · Jul 22, 2014

Taken from this thread:

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/284300-alignment-caster-camber-problems.html

BamaToy1997 said: ↑

Just like rfsdave, I have done more alignments in my career than I care to think about. The thing about the Tacoma is that when you take it in for an alignment after having a lift installed you MUST make sure that the tech knows that with your truck you want a "lift modified alignment". The factory Tacoma specs for a 2013 Tacoma with a 4.0 and 4wd, sitting on 245/75R16 tires is:
Caster .97* to 2.47* (Pref 1.72*)
Camber -0.11* to 1.39* (Pref 0.64*)
Front Toe 0.048* to 0.264* (Pref 0.156*)

When you lift a truck we have found that a higher positive caster is desired for handling, and from what I have researched, a reading of 2.5* caster seems to be optimum. Here is where things get tricky. In SOME situations an alignment tech can actually be held legally liable if he sets the alignment angles outside of factory specs, if it can be proven that that had a factor in an accident where people were injured. That is why when I was working for GM we were told that we had to either set alignments to factory specs, or if the customer wanted to do anything off-spec the service writer was required to have a waiver signed by the owner of the vehicle. Of course some places don't care and will set an alignment to whatever the owner wants, without caring. So when you lift a truck and take it in for an alignment, you have to ask for whatever specifications YOU want your alignment to be.

Another note: I know that so many techs I have met over the years always say that toe should be set perfectly to zero so that there is no tire wear at all. I have learned through the years with talking to instructors and even the Hunter representatives that you really do want your toe to be set to whatever the specs say. So in this case the Tacoma should have toe set at around 0.156*, or about 0.078* toe-in on each side. What this does is helps improve forward bite and control when braking. The more toe-in, the more control and bite when braking, and the less wander when accelerating. And think about it, realistically you are not going to notice any excessive wear in a tire at a mere 0.078* of inward toe. Heck, that is less than a tenth of a degree!
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