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The Frankenstein Build! LT/Expo/Trail rig..and BS

Discussion in '1st Gen. Builds (1995-2004)' started by Blackdawg, May 28, 2011.

  1. Aug 14, 2014 at 9:45 AM
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    StAndrew

    StAndrew Wait for it...

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    $1400 Spindles + $800 LBJ = Way too much damn money :D

    Without the spindle requirement, I would seriously consider the $800 ball joints though...

    Yeah, that site is pissing me off. Everything requires the other thing...
     
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  2. Aug 14, 2014 at 11:44 AM
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    Blackdawg

    Blackdawg [OP] Dr. Frankenstein

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    How they get ya.

    Thats a lot of money haha ill be fine with oem ones. Just change em more often. Ill do double sheer steering later
     
  3. Aug 14, 2014 at 11:59 AM
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    Here is the kit i picked up. It has stock modified spindles with 4wd manual locking hubs so all I would need to do is get custom half shafts
    bd25c7091836029ddfb4ae83830c55e0_ff8544b82776574958659faea774e6b10d09a455.jpg
     
  4. Aug 14, 2014 at 1:26 PM
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    Yea see thats a custom kit. Cool yes but not really helpful to anyone else.

    The reality of it is that there isn't a easy non outrageous pricey option for going uniball lowers.

    Sadly

    Also ball joints last longer then uniballs anyways. Most uniball stuff is 30-50k on average. Ball joints are more 60-100k. Depending one the abuse and treatment they get
     
  5. Aug 14, 2014 at 8:07 PM
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    How do you know when the unibals go bad? They break lol? Also what gets replaced when that happens the bearing and the bolt?
     
  6. Aug 15, 2014 at 5:38 AM
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    Damn, good point. Especially being located were they are; would get all crapped up really quick.
    If you have a good mechanic, he should be able to tell when doing your alignment.

    A quick check:

    Jack your truck up and put your hands on the top and bottom and try to wiggle it vertically. If there is play, its either your top or bottom ball joint.

    Put your hands on the sides and try to wiggle it horizontally. If there is play, its probably your tie rods.

    Monte, check with Toyota on the Tundra/Tacoma but they didnt have the parts on hand. One of the floor team managers told me he believes they are exactly the same ball joints but the Tundra joints had a collar on them. I think he's refering to this:

    http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-43330...ywords=Genuine+Toyota+Tundra+Lower+ball+joint

    As far as prices, they seem to be the same as the Tacoma :notsure:
     
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  7. Aug 15, 2014 at 6:47 AM
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    Blackdawg

    Blackdawg [OP] Dr. Frankenstein

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    the bearing gets play in it. They get loud and wiggle. If you don't replace them the bearing will break out of the joint and then the bolt could break :p


    that is just a rubber dust boot. OEM toyota tacoma ones should come with them. My 03 has them as does all the others that are here with me atm.

    Not too surprised. THe front suspension is so similar and Toyota is great at reusing parts across platforms.
     
  8. Aug 15, 2014 at 8:01 AM
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    I have to disagree. Before I replaced mine, I checked for play with a dial indicator. At full drop there was zero measured play in my ball joints (197k miles). But once I put a jack under the LCA and compressed the suspension about an inch I was able to measure 0.010" of play. So it can be very deceiving!
     
  9. Aug 15, 2014 at 9:08 AM
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    Thanks for the info all this thread is helpful.
     
  10. Aug 15, 2014 at 11:20 AM
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    Dirty Pool FLIES ON THE FRIES, KETCHUPS WATERED DOWN

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    No good for a first gen LBJ. Frankly, assuming that generic ball joint test applies to a first gen is the main reason people push them to the point that they separate.

    I completely agree with CMJ. Here is the test procedure from the FSM. Even it is somewhat lacking in technique and totally misses a very critical diagnostic point. Lets see if anyone can figure it out before someone else risks death.
    CMJ, let someone else give it shot, I think you already know (unless you just can't stand it;)).
    LBJOINT_zps22cd6b74_b34814dc07e6a7f38de4bf5a14b797a0ae87bea6.jpg
     
  11. Aug 15, 2014 at 11:24 AM
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    Isn't lifting your tire in the air and checking for play a wheel bearing test anyway?
     
  12. Aug 15, 2014 at 11:50 AM
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    Im guessing you have to make sure there is load on the lower arm :notsure:
    :notsure: Just something I've always done on my cars... Why is the Tacoma different? Is it because the LBJ is inverted?
     
  13. Aug 15, 2014 at 12:12 PM
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    Squeaky Penguin Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

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    I would imagine a maximum of .020" is almost impossible to notice by hand. If you notice play without measuring it, there would have to much more play than that, or at least that's what I would guess.

    Is that what you're getting at?
     
  14. Aug 22, 2014 at 10:54 PM
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    Photo time! First part of my trip. Lolo Motor way in ID. was nice but very smokey. And of course this is where the LBJ gave out too

    [​IMG]Frank.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]Frank.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]Frank-4.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOS by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-2.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-6.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-8.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-9.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-10.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-11.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-13.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-14.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-17.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-18.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-19.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-20.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-21.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-22.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr
    [​IMG]SOSMeet-23.jpg by Monte Nickles Photos, on Flickr


    More photos will be trickling in here through out the next few weeks :http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/of...09-s-o-s-meet-picture-thread.html#post9077750
     
  15. Aug 22, 2014 at 11:09 PM
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    45acp Paint me back in Wyoming again...

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    Beautiful pictures man. Wish I was there.

    Dat LBJ tho...
     
  16. Aug 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM
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    Blackdawg

    Blackdawg [OP] Dr. Frankenstein

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    Thanks man. Your gonna need a whole different rig for trips like that :laugh:

    yea the LBJ sucked..whatever. haha all worked out. Was quiet the challenge to get it running again. But we did in a day...somehow..
     
  17. Aug 22, 2014 at 11:45 PM
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    i can only imagine your reaction when that thing snapped the second time.

    ive never seen anyong mangle a wheel/front suspension quite that bad. well done!
     
  18. Aug 23, 2014 at 7:43 AM
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    I knew what had happened the millisecond it did. After I wrestled it into the ditch I was pretty calm about it. More concentrated on getting out
     
  19. Aug 23, 2014 at 7:57 AM
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    45acp Paint me back in Wyoming again...

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    Did it fubar both the tire and rim? Looks like it fucked up the UCA too. Either way, glad it happened where it did and not like where we stopped to fix mine. :eek: I would've been completely fucked haha
     
  20. Aug 23, 2014 at 8:06 AM
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    Yea a break on Shoshone like that would be the biggest pain in the ass ever... Which it almost did cuz the week before monte broke his drivers side lbj we were in shoshone :eek:
     

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