Clear coat on black 2015 Tacoma

We're still trying to figure out "you're" and "your." Trust me, someone will read it twice and still be confused.

 

I had to go back and read that thinking I made that 2nd Grade grammatical error. Ha.

 

Are you telling me that decades of single layer automotive paints look flat and have no UV protection?

Who worked in research and development and has several patents in automotive coatings, and who is - as PeeRunner says - "confused"?

 

Not all single stage paints have oxidation issues. There are several types of single stage paints. You have for example Acrylic Enamel, Acrylic Urethane, and Acrylic Lacquer. Each of these are available in single-stage paints, and have a different quality of finish.

That is not exactly true. Most every manufacturer today from Toyota to GM and Ford, as well as Chrysler, use single stage paints for their non metalic paints. Look it up.

That is 100% completely incorrect with a two-stage paint job.(in reference to what I bolded above)

Try to hash out fine little technical terms here, but in a single stage paint, it is generally discussed in any paint shop that the clear coat is, in essence, mixed in. The fact that you need an activator, which is the EXACT same activator used for the clear coat that is used in a two-stage paint is perfect evidence of this.

You mean chameleon, pearls, and candies?

I don't see him saying that at all. It was a simple explanation of how a single stage and two-stage paint is mixed and applied. I have painted several hundred vehicles, and dealt with not only single stage, but two-stage, chameleon, pearls, as well as candies. Now if you can paint a candy, then you can paint anything.

 

This stubborn and BS filled thread is awesome.

 

What I said was base coat colors will look flat before the clear is applied. A single stage paint can have any look to it as it is mixed; flat, satin, gloss. And it will be UV protectant.

 

Bamatoy ... Dude, I totally agree regarding the clearcoat mixed in, that you bolded. I was trying to pivot off of the incorrect terminology of others. My sarcasm often gets the better of me.

A clearcoat is a physical separate top layer of clear with little or no pigment, as I've said numerous times now.

A basecoat is a physical separate pigmented layer, as I've said numerous times now.

I even drew a picture for crying out loud.

A clear +resin+ is used .... oh what the hell. I give up.

 

Yes that is what I was referring to. Candies are typically applied with the clear so that would still be a base clear with candy concentrate mixed in the clear. There are some waterbased candies that are sprayed over a base then clear is sprayed separate.

 

Yes! Because it was specifically formulated to work with a clear coat layer.

Yes yes yes. On that point.

 

The only disagreement from me is that a single stage paint can't have any look. It well never achieve the high level of DOI of a clear/base look.

My gosh. This is bringing out the nerd in me. Can we debate startrek episodes, next?

 

Oh, and a single layer paint can't achieve the same flop, either.

Also, pigments can be more concentrated and thus vibrant in a cc/bc system because they are protected by the clear layer on top.

And one may use tints in the clear layer of a cc/bc system, aka 'candy' to get other effects.

Which, of course, is why white isn't a big contender for use in a clear/base system.

And why a single layer system will never look as awesome as a two layer system.

But back, alluding to the op, black WOULD benefit hugely from a clear layer DOI.

 

Candies are 3 stage. They are also pretty much THE most difficult paint to master. Typically I have used silver or gold metallic base, then spray the candy over the top. Trying to get an even and smooth candy is really hard. Go too slow in one spot and the candy gets too "deep" in color. Go too fast and it gets shallow. Get too close or too far and you run into the same problem. You have to get the candy PERFECTLY even on the entire car, and THAT is a bitch! THEN you have to spray one or two coats of clean clear on the top. I am far from being a pro in candies, but I did do one that turned out SO beautiful! It was a brandywine red candy. This isn't the same car, but this is what it looked like.

 

I know nothing about Star Trek ha.

The discussion was never about which one is a better product. I agree that there are many more possibilities with a bc/cc system.

Yea you call it that way. Not to disagree on something else but I see it as a third element to a two stage. If I am doing that high of a quality paint job I spray two different sessions of clear anyway. Candies are extremely hard to spray evenly, no doubt there. Let's not kill the OP's thread anymore.

OP Black has a clear on your truck.

 

Lol, I know. I must not have been clear enough in the original post...

 

clear enough. Get it?!

 

^^^^ Look what we got here, a freakin' comedian