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What powers 3-way component systems?

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by Ihatetacomas, Dec 8, 2014.

  1. Dec 8, 2014 at 11:52 PM
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    Ihatetacomas

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    Was just thinking about this, my amp is figuratively a 5-channel amp, so 2 channels for the front door speakers and 2 channels for the tweeters plus the 1 channel for the subwoofer. So what powers the midbass speakers? another amp??
     
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    typically yes. there are 3-way systems with passive crossovers, so you can technically power all three speakers with a single amp channel. you will just be limited on adjustment capability (levels, x-over points, x-over slopes, and time delay)
     
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    Typically, 3 way set ups require much more power to have them run effectively.
    So, typically, one would take that 5 channel and bridge 4 channels
    Into 2 and run each passive cross over w a channel then it's essentially a bigger 3 channel amp.

    3 way setups are generally not worth it unless ur an audiophile,
    But then again, you'd go active, use a bit one processor and definitely wouldn't use a class D amp to power them
     
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    So let me get this straight. It would go amp, then wire then crossover then separated wires done by crossover that go to the woofer and tweeter? So a crossover off one channel could power a woofer and tweeter?
     
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    Every system I've ever set up has been built this way.

    The crossover comes with the component speakers, and is installed in close proximity to them, e.g. in the door.
     
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    First time iv done a system like this. Last time was only installing type-r component speakers in a trunk with a wooden piece of plywood for the speakers to hang in.
     
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    I just realized that what I'm thinking of may not be what you're talking about.

    Most "3 way" auto speakers are integrated into a single unit with a single signal wire pair input.

    Most "component" speakers come with 3 parts - small woofer (midrange), tweeter, and crossover network box. A single amplified wire pair connects to the crossover network, and then sends signals to the tweeter and the woofer. This is what I was thinking of.

    You seem to be talking about a non integrated 3 speaker component system with no crossover network.

    I've never even seen a system like that - and I'm certainly not qualified to give any advice on why you'd want it or how it would be hooked up.
     
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    Passive cross over system is simply and basic to use and setup.
    Head unit ---> Amp--> cross Over--> To Mid woofer, to tweeter. Thing of a x-over as a distribution centre.

    Active cross over system require allot more work, tuning and messing around.
    It also requires a processor like a Rf360.3, Audison bit one/ 10, Audiocontrol module.
    This allows for advanced settings and adjustments. A basic path of active set ups :

    Head unit--> Bit one--> Amp/amps ---> To individual speakers.

    For most people this is major overkill, same as a actual 3 way setup. I.e
    Mid woofer, mid range, tweeter.
     
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    So, where should the OP go to read up on installing a system like that?

    Some audiophile/stereo enthusiast forum?
     
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    Google ? 12volt.com and many others
     
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    Just trying to picture it all set up in my head. If a 3-way component system is usually overkill them Id rather spend it on a better system.

    By the way I'm looking at Helix P62C (http://www.helixhifi.com/products/p...pecifications.asp?p_item_id=606219&p_tab_id=3)
    This might be my go-to... But I haven't heard them yet.
     
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    If you're looking for just "decent sound" and not being able to pick up the location of the bass player in relation to the piano player on the stage, then a 3-way is over-kill. Just get a decent 2-way and give it lots of powwa!
     
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    Ill just retract, easier that way.

    i have provided all the information i can
     
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