1700rpm

I can add a little insight based on somewhat-related experience, so bear with me....
I once had a 2003 VW TDI Jetta Diesel Wagon 5-Speed manual that reached peak torque at 1900 RPM.

- 1900 RPM was also the approximate engine speed while cruising in overdrive.
- It means having full power driving at highway speeds with superb pedal response
- It means not having to dip into the throttle or shift to a lower gear when the road turns upwards
- You really notice it on hills when other cars are either slowing down or speeding up because of the lack of torque
- In other words, they can't "make the grade"! Other cars start to seem like turtles! You seem to pass more.

Having torque at a low engine speed is a game changer in terms of driving experience. As much as I love my '21 OR 6-MT (and I really do), this new power train, and the MT option are very appealing even IF there were no other improvements. I just need a few of you early adopters to shake out the early hiccups and report in!

BTW - that particular VW year and configuration is considered to be the "Holy Grail' of VW diesels. They are known to run 400K+ mi and the turbos don't really seem to be problematic.

 

I think 3rd gen peak torque is 4500rpm?

 

4600, but close enough. I firmly believe the new manual truck will be an absolute pleasure to drive over the outgoing manual. And I like my 3rd Gen. I drive a lot and in nasty conditions like constant construction jobsites. Once the kinks are worked out, I may just keep my 3G and add a 4G to the collection. I’m definitely going to test drive one once I can.

 

I feel the same, love my current truck but that low end torque is a game changer. I would love to drive the hybrid with the 465 lb-ft of torque, but feel I'd miss the MT too much, buy one of each?

 

It would be awesome to be able to get the hybrid on the manual, but just the turbo itself will be such an improvement over what we have that I don't think I'll feel like I'm missing out on anything. I would miss the MT too much for sure, I don't really care how much power is available, I'd rather row my own. I think a lot of folks feel the same.

My brother's 2.3L Ranger made the exact same HP and TQ numbers as the new Toyota 2.4L except it made peak torque at 3200 rpm compared to the 1700 we are about to see. That tells me that the Tacoma will be even more sporty and the Ranger absolutely hauled ass for what it was. Granted, it did have a better gear spread with the 10 speed auto, but a 6 speed manual will be plenty good in my eyes. Especially if they use the 6 speed I think they will use but have yet to confirm.

No matter what, I am absolutely pumped for this new truck.

 

In one of the videos the guy said they eliminated the accumulator. Said the engagement points are precise and predictable. Unlike the soupy mess of 3rd gens. I swear sometimes my clutch feels like I'm driving a different truck from day to day.

I agree, I really enjoy driving my manual and revving through gears. The new manual should be epic.

 

I like that they ditched the accumulator, but one thing did make me nervous: a few minutes later he talked about they made the clutch pedal softer. I hope that doesn't turn out to be a negative. I've found that soft clutches are hard to control because they have very little feel. I like the firmness of the 3rd gen clutch combined with the lack of accumulator. I wish that's what they would do.

The newer Jeep JL and JTs are complained about for the soft clutch with very little feedback. I am hoping the new Tacoma is not the same way. Time will tell. Still wouldn't keep me from buying one though.