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1911 as first gun?

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by EMTaco, Nov 11, 2009.

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What should he do?

Poll closed Dec 11, 2009.
  1. A 1911 is a good 1st gun.

    26 vote(s)
    30.6%
  2. Buy a .22, learn to shoot, then look for something bigger.

    26 vote(s)
    30.6%
  3. Cocked and Locked with a novice is SCARY.

    7 vote(s)
    8.2%
  4. Buy a Glock.

    23 vote(s)
    27.1%
  5. Buy a wheelgun.

    3 vote(s)
    3.5%
  1. Nov 15, 2009 at 7:55 AM
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    High-Gear

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    You subscribe the the same theory as the Mossad. They draw and chamber a round as the gun is being presented toward the target. the only drawback is....

    What if you are wounded in your off hand / arm, or holding your attacker back with that arm? How do you chamber a round? I'm not only talking about a man, what if you are parrying a dog which is attacking you? Kinda hard to rack a round.

    On a side note, we had a training day where we had officers fight for 90 seconds to retain their handgun in their holster, then go to the range to shoot. When he got there, he had to load and shoot while being yelled at, and in low light with cherries and berries going (red and blue strobes) This was done to give officers a thinking task during sensory overload. One officer had trouble racking the round. Why? Because under physical and mental stress you loose fine motor skill. I would eliminate as many variables as possible, and have the gun ready to fire. It is inherantly safe with a round chambered as long as you don't pull the trigger unless it is an intentional act.
     
  2. Nov 15, 2009 at 1:10 PM
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    these are very good points

    :thumbsup:
     
  3. Nov 15, 2009 at 2:05 PM
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    I enjoy 1911s and Glocks.
    I shoot much better with the 1911s, some have had a lot of work done to them. If he decides to carry the 1911 make sure it is completly reliable with the ammo that will be carried. At least 500 rounds fired with zero problems.
    All this said I carry a Glock 30SF. It is ultra reliable and shoots any ammo I have tried. I would hate to scratch some of my high end 1911s, which will happen in daily carry.

    Range and competion 1911, everyday use Glock.
    Just my choice.
    Become well aquainted with the carry pistol, pratice, pratice, and do it some more.
     
  4. Nov 15, 2009 at 3:36 PM
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    Glocks really are the TIMEX of the gun world. Inexpensive (relatively) and take a licking and keep on ticking. I have a gen 2 Glock 17 that went 5 years as a duty gun for a patrol officer, then rode in a chest mounted rig through the 5 years I was on SWAT, and is now my nightstand / glovebox gun. This thing is scratched and dinged to hell and back, covered in skateboard tape, and lost most of its finish. One day I forgot about a 3 month indoor league I was shooting until I was called to see if I was going to attend. The only gun I had with me was this old 17, so a trip by Wal-Mart for ammo and in I walked (gun in the plastic sack). I wound up shooting a 500 / 500 that day with a completely stock, beat up G-17 (and I was competing in an unlimited class)!
     
  5. Nov 16, 2009 at 8:21 AM
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    Don’t waist your time with a 22 it’s an over powered BB gun.
     
  6. Nov 16, 2009 at 9:59 AM
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    ok, how'd you like to step in front of one. I'd rather have a .22 than nothing at all. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Nov 16, 2009 at 10:05 AM
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  8. Nov 16, 2009 at 10:19 AM
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    i'll give you a bb gun, and i'll take a .22, and we'll see who dies first.
    want to guess?
     
  9. Nov 16, 2009 at 2:55 PM
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    Do you know that people have successfuly hunted deer with a 22LR with no problem? That bullet has enough energy behind it to travel a mile and STILL kill. It's all about shot placement.
     
  10. Nov 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM
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    Lets be realistic here, the type of person who asks, or is willing to be told by people on some random internet site should not have a 1911 as a CCW. Second, there are too many other good weapons out there for machismo to be the deciding factor. Save the swagger for the range.......you cannot beat a glock for the task, and there are many other great choices, but a 1911 is not high on the list.
    But that Kimber does rock, and should be bought.
     
  11. Nov 16, 2009 at 6:12 PM
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    Just to clarify...I put up the post/poll to get others' feedback on the idea, not to make any kind of decision for my buddy (who did end up buying the gun). And I carry Glocks.
     
  12. Nov 16, 2009 at 6:18 PM
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    Hey! Look! Someone else from KKKalifornia who's completely misinformed about guns!!! :facepalm:
     
  13. Nov 16, 2009 at 6:58 PM
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    I would also consider availability in your area for chosen caliber as well...I have a Glock 36 (.45 acp) and a browning hi power (9mm) can't really find ammo in the immediate area. I have to wait for gun shows or drive 30-45 min. I am in the east bay, ca, I wouldn't say it's a remote area at all.
     
  14. Nov 16, 2009 at 7:06 PM
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    Yep, I have infact killed a deer with a .22LR hollow tip. Like you said, it's shot placement.
     
  15. Nov 17, 2009 at 9:27 AM
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    A .22lr or .22 mag is a deer poachers first choice around here
     
  16. Nov 17, 2009 at 9:38 AM
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    22lr is the butchers first choice, too.
    drop a 1500lb steer right now.
     
  17. Nov 17, 2009 at 4:38 PM
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    Hey don't lump us all together now. Most of our un-informed are in Sacramento or reside in the liberal havens of this wonderful state of Kalifornia.;)
     
  18. Nov 18, 2009 at 5:35 AM
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    Thats true. My friend owns a packing plant and he uses a .22lr
     
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