1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

1997 Tacoma 2.7L 4x4. Cranks but will not start..

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Maui Tacoma, Feb 1, 2025.

  1. Feb 1, 2025 at 8:19 PM
    #1
    Maui Tacoma

    Maui Tacoma [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2023
    Member:
    #419382
    Messages:
    22
    1997 Tacoma 2.7L 4x4. Cranks but will not start..

    Read error codes
    P0100- Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor error
    We replaced with NEW MAF sensor
    P0120- Throttle Position Sensor Error
    We replaced with NEW TPS Sensor
    P0335- Crankshaft Position Sensor Error
    We replaced with NEW CPS Sensor

    Engine will crank but will not start...

    What else could be the cause of NO start up....?????

     
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2025
  2. Feb 1, 2025 at 8:33 PM
    #2
    TheWildMan

    TheWildMan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2024
    Member:
    #443266
    Messages:
    539
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    3rd Gen 23 Tacoma OR
    Scrubbed some tires, and knocked a dent out.
    Does it sound like its getting fuel and combusting? Or is it just turning?
     
  3. Feb 1, 2025 at 9:00 PM
    #3
    Maui Tacoma

    Maui Tacoma [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2023
    Member:
    #419382
    Messages:
    22
    Sounds like its getting fuel... But it just turns and turns.. Sprayed starter fluid into the throttle body... No start..
     
  4. Feb 2, 2025 at 7:07 AM
    #4
    Glamisman

    Glamisman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2016
    Member:
    #200436
    Messages:
    4,958
    Gender:
    Male
    If these parts are not toyota parts you could be chasing your tail. Toyotas are finiky about aftermarket parts.

    The first and easiest thing is to have someone crank the motor over while you mist some starting fluid into the intake. Do not spray it then crank it. If it starts then you know it has a fuel problem, if it doesnt then pull a spark plug and put it back in the coil/plug wire and ground it and have someone crank it over to see if you have spark. If no spark and she has a distributor, pop the cap and see if the distributor rotor turns when you crank it. If she does have a distributor these are a know issue.
     
  5. Feb 2, 2025 at 10:31 AM
    #5
    tacoman2001$

    tacoman2001$ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2022
    Member:
    #406478
    Messages:
    767
    Gender:
    Male
    Your issue is your p0335, Without a crankshaft position reading the truck will not start. Now seeing you also have other codes that arent part related I would guess you have a wiring problem. I would start with visually following the crankshaft wires back to the ecm. Go very slow and check very carefully. A nick in the insulation can cause corrosion inside the wire that you cant even see.
     
    MadNachos likes this.
  6. Feb 2, 2025 at 6:46 PM
    #6
    Maui Tacoma

    Maui Tacoma [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2023
    Member:
    #419382
    Messages:
    22
    I have replaced and checked the ohm on the crank position sensor.. Reads correctly...
    I replaced the spark plugs with 4 new ngk plugs.

    Still no spark when i ground the plug.
    1st coil runs plug 1 and 4
    2nd coil runs plug 2 and 3

    I tried on all 4 plugs with all 4 wires.. no spark from either coils.
     
  7. Feb 2, 2025 at 11:11 PM
    #7
    tacoman2001$

    tacoman2001$ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2022
    Member:
    #406478
    Messages:
    767
    Gender:
    Male
    Have you tried checking the crank sensor at the ecm? Or get a scan tool see what the crank sensor is sending to the ecu?
     
  8. Feb 3, 2025 at 10:56 AM
    #8
    Maui Tacoma

    Maui Tacoma [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2023
    Member:
    #419382
    Messages:
    22
    Trying to get a scan tool from my friend...And will look into check cam sensor at the ecm...

    Do you have any links to check the crank sensor at the ecm..???
     
  9. Feb 3, 2025 at 11:09 AM
    #9
    tacoman2001$

    tacoman2001$ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2022
    Member:
    #406478
    Messages:
    767
    Gender:
    Male
    Sorry they're not the fancy digital photos but it should work.

    20250203_140629.jpg
    20250203_140641.jpg
    20250203_140644.jpg
     
  10. Feb 3, 2025 at 11:21 AM
    #10
    Maui Tacoma

    Maui Tacoma [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2023
    Member:
    #419382
    Messages:
    22
    Thank you for sending those photos. Im kinda rookie mechanic..These are very helpful..

    When i check with multimeter these pins..... 11(E6) G and 5(E6) G- .....Also 12(E6) NE and 6(E6) NE-

    Do i check for voltage changes when cranking..???

    If i see changes in voltage... thats good..
    If i don't see voltage changes....thats not good..

    That Cam sensor i have NOT changed yet....

    Screenshot 2025-02-03 at 9.17.01 AM.png
     
  11. Feb 3, 2025 at 12:11 PM
    #11
    Maui Tacoma

    Maui Tacoma [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2023
    Member:
    #419382
    Messages:
    22
    I put my multimeter on pins 5 and 11...cranked the engine... Voltage stared at 0.00 and changed to 0.02
    Then put multimeter on pins 6 and 12...cranked the engine... voltage started at 0.00 and changed to 0.12
    Not sure what i should be seeing....should it go from 0.00v to 5v..?????? on both..????
     
  12. Feb 3, 2025 at 12:20 PM
    #12
    999

    999 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2020
    Member:
    #346818
    Messages:
    135
    Gender:
    Male
    Texas
    This likely isn’t helpful.

    Not on a Toyota but on an Suzuki outboard.

    It will throw a crank position sensor if it thinks it the motor should be running but it isn’t for other reasons. My issue was a neutral safety switch, and once fixed the crank position sensor code went away.
     
  13. Feb 3, 2025 at 12:41 PM
    #13
    Maui Tacoma

    Maui Tacoma [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2023
    Member:
    #419382
    Messages:
    22
    ok..After some google info... I believe i need to be checking for OHM not voltage on those pins...

    I went and re checked pins 5 and 11 with OHMs and i see definite readings ohm values changing as a crank...
    Then re checked pins 6 and 12 with OHMs and i see definite readomgs ohm values changing as a crank..

    I think the Camshaft pos sensor maybe ok with those readings....
     
  14. Feb 3, 2025 at 3:52 PM
    #14
    tacoman2001$

    tacoman2001$ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2022
    Member:
    #406478
    Messages:
    767
    Gender:
    Male
    I would put one end on the crank sensor connector and the other end on the corresponding ecu pin. Set the multi meter to ohms. Check both wires and let us know what they read.
     
  15. Feb 3, 2025 at 4:21 PM
    #15
    Maui Tacoma

    Maui Tacoma [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2023
    Member:
    #419382
    Messages:
    22
    Crank Sensor has 3 wires...Cam Sensor has 2 wires....

    Which one are you talking about...???
     
  16. Feb 3, 2025 at 4:28 PM
    #16
    Maui Tacoma

    Maui Tacoma [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2023
    Member:
    #419382
    Messages:
    22
    i checked ohm from pin1 on crankshaft to pin 12 (E6)....shorted out...
    i checked ohm from pin2 on crankshaft to pin 6 (E6).....No Short...

    see image

    Screenshot 2025-02-03 at 9.23.04 AM.png
     
  17. Feb 3, 2025 at 4:38 PM
    #17
    tacoman2001$

    tacoman2001$ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2022
    Member:
    #406478
    Messages:
    767
    Gender:
    Male
    You want little to no resistance, ideally under 1 ohm. You are simply measuring the resistance of the wire from the crank sensor to the ecu. What exactly are your ohms on each wire?
     
  18. Feb 3, 2025 at 4:48 PM
    #18
    Maui Tacoma

    Maui Tacoma [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2023
    Member:
    #419382
    Messages:
    22
    Checked all 4 wires for both sensors....

    all 4 read 00.4 ohms

    Screenshot 2025-02-03 at 2.47.35 PM.png
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2025
  19. Feb 3, 2025 at 4:53 PM
    #19
    tacoman2001$

    tacoman2001$ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2022
    Member:
    #406478
    Messages:
    767
    Gender:
    Male
    Interesting. Might be time to grab the scan tool and see what it shows. Maybe the reluctor wheel the sensor reads is damaged.
     
  20. Feb 3, 2025 at 4:59 PM
    #20
    Maui Tacoma

    Maui Tacoma [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2023
    Member:
    #419382
    Messages:
    22
    i put the multimeter on pins 5 and 11 and cranked the engine and saw the fluctuation of resistance on the Camshaft sensor...
    Also did the same for the Crank sensor.... Both gave fluctuation of ohms as i cranked engine....

    Screenshot 2025-02-03 at 2.56.54 PM.png
     

Products Discussed in

To Top