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1st gen 105 amp bolt in alternator.

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by chagovatoloco, Sep 21, 2019.

  1. Sep 21, 2019 at 9:50 PM
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    chagovatoloco

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    Hello, new guy 1st post. Full disclosure, I've worked in automotive for 20 years but this is my 1st Tacoma. I've been reading for a year and have done many upgrades thanks to the great info on the boards. But I couldn't find an alternator upgrade I liked, I do not like hacking into an OE harness and feel a bolt on upgrade shouldn't cost hundreds. I dug through the books at works and found Denso part #210 - 0461. It's a 105 amp unit and a direct bolt on. With the exception of needing to drill out the threaded ear hole.The pulley is the same and the only difference is the positive terminal points down, no big deal.

    It's from a Suzuki Grand Vitara and my charging voltage at idle is now 14.2, even with wipers and all the lights on.

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  2. Sep 21, 2019 at 10:03 PM
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    So stupid question here because I haven't pulled the alternator on my truck at all; you drilled out a hole, but did you tap it for larger threads? Not needed?
     
  3. Sep 21, 2019 at 10:09 PM
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    No, you drill it out because the hole dosen't need to be threaded. The tensioner bolt goes through it.
     
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  4. Sep 21, 2019 at 10:24 PM
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    Thanks this should probably be a sticky or added to an existed post in there. Awesome thanks!
     
  5. Sep 22, 2019 at 4:48 AM
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    Welcome to TW from a guy who's been haunting this place since '08. I have two questions for ya:
    1. How many amps is my stock alternator? I never figured this out.
    2. Why does a Suzuki Grand Vitara alternator have higher amps stock? What are they running in that vehicle that requires that extra power? Thanks.
     
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    PS-it's pretty cool you being a first-poster and you're coming here with knowledge for the rest of us instead of needing it.
     
  7. Sep 22, 2019 at 5:34 AM
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    Holy Crap! Great work chagovatoloco! Ironic that that Denso alternator is made in the USA. I was going to go with the Cadillac alternator swap when I had to have an alternator, but this might work.

    Now I just HAVE to ask, how on earth did you come across this compatibility? You located in Chile? Excellent! Drives me nuts when users here are too paranoid to even post where they live :-(
     
  8. Sep 22, 2019 at 5:37 AM
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    Thanks for sharing!
     
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    Lol, no I'm not from Chile. I grew up in the SF bay area. So the stock alternator on 1st gens is 60 to 80 amps. The 04's are 80 amps but the main issue is they charge very low at idle. I don't know why the Suzuki Grand Vitara is 105 amps, but I would guess they are following the trend in automotive for higher amp alternators. Even now most new cars are 100+ amps, I don't know why Toyota went so low on the Tacoma but problem solved. I actually come here for knowledge all of the time, I just wanted to give a little back. That's why I posted. Oh and here's my truck.20190813_195003.jpg 20190807_201256.jpg

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    I found this be digging through an alternator buyers guide, I've been a parts guy for 20 years and I work at my buddy's shop on the weekend.
     
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    Sweet
     
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  12. Sep 22, 2019 at 7:03 AM
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    Maybe you should do a group buy on these since you work at a parts store.

    What price can you get these For us t?

    I’m definitely in on one

    Looks like the cheapest reman ones are 150.00 free shipping on eBay.
     
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    Kind of hard to resist for $100 and change with core. Then we have the TW Rock discount.

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    Heh; sorry! Your handle is "Crazy Guy", and your name is Santiago, just thought maybe!
     
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    Yup, price will be pretty close, don’t know if they accept a different alternator as a core?
    And the added price for shipping of 10.00 and tax get almost to the same price.

    Either way this looks like something to put on my list before winter
     
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    Chagovatoloco this is good info, thanks!!
    Also, what was your old charging voltage at idle with lights and wipers on?
    If you ever drive down to LA I'll buy you a beer.
     
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    It was 12.4, and I didn't like it. Technically that is fine for being under 1200 rpms, but when I get a winch and second battery I want the extra amperage.
     
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    I'll hit you up next time I'm in LA.
     
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    , actually I get that a lot.
     
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    I actually have a 99 Taco alternator to use for the core. I don't know if they x-reference part numbers on the return.

    I didn't think it mattered until I recently tried to turn in a starter that was not identical to the one for a Taco as a core at O'Reilly. That didn't go very far.

    Either way I think this is a deal.

    Now surely Toyota doesn't do something like a 95 Ford F-150 and require the alternator output to exactly match the factory spec or it will throw a battery charging light?

    I hope not.
     
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