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1st Gen Shock Relocation 2.5" - Outside Frame Rails

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by ARCHIVE, Oct 18, 2018.

  1. Jan 12, 2019 at 8:17 AM
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    Stuff and junk and things...
    This is exactly what a double bypass is, 1 comp tube and 1 rebound tube. Off the shelf double bypass layout won't be any benefit in this application. You will be riding in the middle of the tubes and depending on leafs and how bump stops are set up you may never get past the upper compression port to utilize the "bump zone."

    If you want a double bypass to work in this application you will want a 1" dia rebound tube and a very small .75" dia that will be used in the last 30% of the up travel. All very custom and not worth the trouble when you can use IBP and a comp adjuster to achieve the same with better packaging.

    I'm waiting for the rubber covered shock pics to show up!

    I just put together some 12" Icon's with the manifold resi outlet like the current T4R or Tacoma 2.5's. that creates a very tunable (via piston shims) bump zone and when combined with a comp adjuster will be overall tunable depending on load out or terrain. I still have to pull the old SAW's and test fit for resi placement and to adjust the shock mounts.
     
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  2. Jan 12, 2019 at 8:38 AM
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    crazy, I didn’t know there was space for that
     
  3. Jan 16, 2019 at 11:02 AM
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    I'm not picking on your install or setup, it looks good. However, the reason you can fit those straight up without bottoming out is that you have your bumps on a 3" tall spacer. The Archive kit is designed to allow full bump travel, so the the spacer stand wouldn't be necessary, which I believe is only possible with shocks outboard or through the bed.
     
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  4. Jan 16, 2019 at 11:12 AM
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    My leafs already bump slightly negative. I would consider that full bump travel.

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. Jan 16, 2019 at 11:22 AM
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    I consider what Toyota deemed full bump as acceptable. I am fine with your decision for your build
     
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  6. Jan 16, 2019 at 11:33 AM
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    I completely missed that you have 3" spacers on your bumps! now it makes sense why you can stuff 10's in there lol
     
  7. Jan 16, 2019 at 3:24 PM
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    ok, so more leaf spring minutiae; but can you negative arch to the factory bump with anything other than factory springs? (or 63s?) Will Dakars, J59s, etc get up there?

    (full disclosure: I'm all about uptravel)
     
  8. Jan 16, 2019 at 3:38 PM
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    My Deavers go just past flat when i bump. I added a 3/4" spacer as it was the most effective way point to set my bump limit.

    When we set up my Archive kit, we kept the spacers in because losing 3/4" inch of uptravel isn't that big of a deal, and it optimizes the amount of droop i get, because sending it is fun.

    Bump stop.jpg
     
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  9. Jan 16, 2019 at 3:43 PM
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    you went from an existing outboard shock mount to the Archive mount? why's that?
     
  10. Jan 16, 2019 at 3:57 PM
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    Eric asked for help from experienced members to R&D the prototypes, and i need the space for a hydro bump that the Solo mount prevented.

    Plus the Archive is a tower style which i prefer, it's designed for a 2.5, vs 2.0 for all the others, and its crazy stout. My frame will bend before i ever have issues with this beast.

    archiveaway.jpg
     
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  11. Jan 16, 2019 at 4:07 PM
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    Me too on the uptravel. I'd be disappointed in a spring manufacturer who sold a spring that didn't bump equivalent to stock

    Note: Deaver J59's have a reverse eye and an english eye see Will's post #268, which goes less negative than stock springs with 2 standard eyes _O
     
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  12. Jan 16, 2019 at 5:33 PM
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    which is which?
     
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    In post 268, the front eye is reverse, and rear is english
     
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  14. Jan 16, 2019 at 6:01 PM
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    thanks.
     
  15. Jan 16, 2019 at 6:35 PM
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    Are you going to run a spacer als,or will you be good with just you current backspacing?
     
  16. Jan 17, 2019 at 8:42 PM
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    I’ve never run a spacer. I should be fine with current BS, but as I haven’t driven the shocks installed yet, I’m not sure. We’ll find out though! Lol
     
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  17. Jan 17, 2019 at 10:04 PM
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    I'm definitely interested in you results. We have the same springs and tire size. I just don't have the same backspaceing. I considering going with this or through the bed. What's your eta on getting it finished?? And thanks for keeping us updated.
     
  18. Jan 18, 2019 at 3:44 PM
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    Putting the shocks back together tomorrow morning. My buddy has my shock oil and the nitrogen tank.
     
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  19. Jan 18, 2019 at 5:30 PM
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    Where you get that spacer for the top?
     

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