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1st gen spare wheel on 2nd gen?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by JdevTac, Dec 2, 2017.

  1. Dec 2, 2017 at 6:05 PM
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    JdevTac

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    As title says, anyone ever put a set of 1st gen spare tire steel wheels on a 2nd gen?

    I’ve also heard 1st gen Tundra 16” spares are the same as 1st gen Tacos.

    These wheels are 16x7 w/ ~4.5” bs, which is more desirable to me over the 2nd gen with ~5.5bs.

    I know for a fact 3rd gen 4Runner Steelies contact the front calipers, so those are out as I don’t want spacers.

    UPDATE 2/13/18
    Installed 4x OEM 1st gen Tundra/Sequoia/1st gen Taco spare style steelies. Fit without issues and utilize the same TPMS that Toyota alloy use (20degree angle) so no need to buy new Tpms if you have alloy.
     
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  2. Dec 28, 2017 at 12:57 PM
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    Can someone give some advice on how exactly to 100% check a wheel fits with no rubbing on the caliper?

    I test mounted a 1st gen Tundra 16” spare steel wheel (same as what comes on 1st gen Tacoma’s). Got the lugs snugged down, wheel was a snug fit. I didn’t hear any rubbing of metal on metal nor did I see any rub marks on the dirty caliper. So I am assuming I’m all good. Definitely clears around the outside of the caliper that faces the wheel well, just couldn’t get a good view of the caliper near the wheel lugs. Again, no rub marks or anything on the caliper surface after wheel removal.

    Everything also spun with no resistance so I’m assuming I’m good.
     
  3. Dec 28, 2017 at 1:24 PM
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    Well, if it’s a 16x7 with 4.5” BS, then the only other thing you would need to be concerned about is the hub size and bolt pattern, which you've already verified fits. Less backspace is fine. Wider stance. You don’t want more backspace. That will move the tire inward too much. Now you just need to make sure to get the right size tire.
     
  4. Dec 28, 2017 at 1:29 PM
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    ^^ this^^
    Wheels are pretty interchangeable. Other than the older 5 bolts, I'm 99% positive Toyota truck/suv patterns are the same.
    6x5.5, hub centric. I put my first gen wheels on my 3rd gen 4 runner often.
     
  5. Dec 28, 2017 at 1:57 PM
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    Yeah hub size/bore was listed as the same 106mm. And it is indeed the 4.5” bs which I measured myself and got closer to 4.75. This was my other reason to go with these Steelies, as the ones on a 2nd gen are 5.5 bs which I don’t want. My goal is 285s for future and anything more than 4.5 I’ve read is a no go and will require spacers to clear the UCA.

    Currently going to stick with my 265/75/16s.

    For the most part yes. I read a post of a member who put 3rd gen 4Runner 18 hole steelies on and they didn’t clear which was reason for my concern.

    And I saw a one of post of a member with only 2 posts saying the 1st gen steelies rubbed his caliper but when I tested they didn’t seem to.

    I guess I’m all good and can buy the other 3 rims lol.
     
  6. Dec 28, 2017 at 1:59 PM
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    Sounds good. Let is know how it goes.
     
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    That is something else I wasn’t thinking about, the 16” clearing the calipers. If you’ve test fitted, you’re probably good to go. There are many 16” wheels that don’t fit, but that’s seems to be more of an aftermarket wheel issue. I have 16” procomps, which is one of a few that will fit.
     
  8. Jan 19, 2018 at 2:44 PM
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    I completed my set of 4 1st gen Tundra/Toyota/Sequoia wheels. Plan on getting them installed sometime February.

    I'll need to touch them up and get them cleaned up.

    And I bought steel wheel TPMS off another member on here so hopefully that will work out. I've heard mixed things on whether the 16-18 hole spare wheels need Toyota 20 degree sensors or 40 degree sensors. Either way I have both.
     
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    Update: decided to completely strip the paint on the inside of the wheels. Too much crud built up and some rust spots and a few slightly pitted spots here and there. Giving myself a good substrate for applying POR15 to the insides. Will then topcoat that. The exterior side of the wheels are just going to be further degrimed and sanded for application of Duplicolor engine enamel. Will see how that works out. Wanted spray paint on outside so any foreseeable touchups are easier.

    Also side note, simple green is weak sauce on wheel grime, in contrast to what I saw on other forums.

    Was hoping to have the wheels powdercoated but the local reputable shop quoted $400 for media blasting+powdercoat total. That is way off my range. Which is why I am going the POR15 route.
     
  10. Feb 3, 2018 at 6:39 PM
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    Finished coating the wheels. Did POR15 on then inside of the rim and did Duplicolor semi gloss black engine enamel on the exterior over sanded down stock paint.

    Sort of after the fact I went and read some more reviews on POR15 long term results. Lots of 50/50 responses on either its held up great or is chipping/pealed off in spots. So we will see if I screwed up or not. I think the 50/50 comes down to proper prep. I did the degrease, then metal prep, and finally application stages on a wire wheeled/sanded bare metal surface with some surface rust here and there. My only real worries are hopefully it maintains a bond with the prepped metal as well as the rusted areas.

    POR15 Prepping after taking interior of wheels down to bare metal as best as possible:
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    Hit insides with POR15. Stuff went on really smooth. Only used maybe 1/2 a small can to do entire first coat on all 4 wheels. Took 4hrs to cure to a tacky finish so I could do th second coat. Left them overnight to “fully” cure.

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    Hit outsides with Duplicolor engine enamel primer:
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    Final topcoat with the Duplicolor semi gloss black. This stuff apparently does pretty well in regards to durability/finish. Again, most negative reviews seem to correlate with poor prep. Surface was sanded with 320 grit and degreased yesterday while prepping for the POR15, then hit again with some alcohol prior to painting.
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    So now I have restored wheels. Hopefully the POR15 lasts. My last bit of internal debate is wether to topcoat the actual POR15 or not. It is not UV stable and the color will turn white if exposed to sunlight, but apparently this doesn’t affect the bond or actual product strength by what I’ve read. I missed the period to dust coat it with primer before it cures. So now my only option is to sand/rough it up to get a primer to bind.

    In retrospect I should’ve just bought new Toyota spec steelies that you can get in a lot of wheel sites. Would’ve saved myself some serious heartache that went into prepping these bastards. Will do a 6 mo update on the POR15. Will either be damning it to hell or praising myself for a job well done and a good product.
     
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    Do you have the part # or wheel # for what you mounted that fit the TPMS and proper backspacing?
     
  12. Apr 2, 2019 at 12:47 PM
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    Item #1 in the pic is the wheel with the part number listed below it. I eBayed all four of mine for $50 each.

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    And then for TPMS, the part number at least for my OEM 2013 sensors is:
    4260706012

    It is the 20 degree angle sensor meant for alloys but fits the spare wheel style OEM steelies perfectly.

    BS on the wheels is like 4.625”. They just clear the stock calipers on the front. Didn’t need spacers.
     
  13. Apr 2, 2019 at 12:53 PM
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    Great man super helpful thank you
     

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