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2.7L compared to V6 S10

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by TheFinkler, May 1, 2012.

  1. May 1, 2012 at 2:38 PM
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    TheFinkler

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    Howdy. I'm finally looking into getting a new vehicle, and have considered a Tacoma since I bought my S10 years ago. I've had a 97 4.3 manual S10 for years and I think it's finally time I get a new car. I don't nearly push it to the limit as much as I used to, so I won't need the power, nor do I do any off-roading, so I'm looking forward to the gas mileage of a 4 banger (4 cylinder Colorados and S10s have been outa the question since day one, drove them for Nappa, back in the day and I hated them), but I know Toyota's 2.7 is a lot more powerful and reliable. I'm looking to get a brand new 4 cylinder with a stick, so I'm just curious as to what I'm going to be limited to, and whatnot.
     
  2. May 1, 2012 at 2:41 PM
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    Welcome to Tacoma World from Nova Scotia. Sorry I can't help with info on the 4cyl, but I'm sure someone will be along soon.

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  3. May 1, 2012 at 2:46 PM
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    lol, yeah I know it doesn't have the torque, but "truckwise", what can an S10 do that a 4 cylinder Tacoma can't do? Is it going to be stupidly slow up hills, merging onto the highway with ~500lbs in the bed, winter driving etc.
     
  4. May 1, 2012 at 3:14 PM
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    I cant speak for the new 2.7, but my 01 single cab prerunner had no power at all. It would constantly down shift going up small hills, and the torque was terrible. But......it was a tacoma and when I sold it with 100,000 miles on it I still got 6k for it.
     
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    I had a '93 S10 with the 4.3 when I was 16. That thing was a one-wheel peel master. I have no experience with the 4 cyl though so I cant compare
     
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    Won't have the guts of a 4.3 but it's 10X the truck.
     
  7. May 1, 2012 at 4:20 PM
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  9. May 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM
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  10. May 1, 2012 at 6:10 PM
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    Having had both (4.3L in a ZR2 Blazer), I honestly dont think there's much of a difference in power when used as a daily driver and weekend chore/play vehicle.
     
  11. May 1, 2012 at 7:19 PM
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    :) I just traded in my 98 S-10 with the 4.3 and is an auto for a new tacoma with the 2.7 and a auto there also. You will see a big difference in straight line performance, the Tacoma is slower than the S-10. Now the tacoma is Bigger in width and length over the S-10 and is quiet. You sit taller in the Tacoma and the interior has more room. You only miss the torque of the S-10. The mileage difference between the 2.7, four banger and the 4.0, V-6 is not much. You may enjoy a V-6 Tacoma with a manual better than the 4 cylinder, if you can afford the difference in price. I bought my 2.7 because I didn't want another V-6, but if you want to have better performance, the 4 liter V-6 is what you should get.
     
  12. May 2, 2012 at 8:06 AM
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    Having had an S10, I will provide my thoughts and observations regarding the S10 4.3 vs Tacoma 2.7.

    First thing to be aware of is the way that horsepower is rated. In the mid 200X's, auto makers switched over to a different way of correcting horsepower measurements, the "SAE certified power" standards. GM made the switch a couple of years before Toyota and synchronized this change with the introduction of new engines, and updated engines. Effectively, they made the change disappear. Toyota, however, re-rated their engines. Tacoma 2.7 was given a power rating lower than what it had previously, which was about 165 hp. It is now down to 159.

    I would suggest that if you're going to compare the two based on horsepower, that it would be more appropriate to compare S10 with the old ratings for Tacoma 2.7.

    1996+ S10 4.3 was rated either 180 or 190 hp, depending on the configuration. 190 for ZR2, 180 for all else. S10 1995 and older with TBI 4.3 were as low as 150 hp.

    Comparing with the 97, the realistic power difference, based on the old ratings, is 15 or 25 hp in favor of S10. So the question becomes 'how much is 15 or 25 hp?'

    The S10 I had was a ZR2 with automatic transmission, 190 hp.

    Despite being generally pain in the butt unreliable, I found that the automatic transmission gave the thing the feeling of a dodge aries. It had no get-up. It had very significant hesitation on downshifting. It wouldn't downshift into 2nd at any speed over 70 kph (43.75 mph). Imagine how much fun that is when trying to climb a hill with a trailer, stuck at 3k rpm floored and slowing down until you hit 70 kph, then WHAM, goes into second. Note: I did compare it against other S10's and it was checked over by the manufacturer while it was still under warranty. Apparently, it was working properly.

    Tacoma 2.7 4x4 manual will hold 2nd safely up a little over 90 kph (55 mph), and at that gear ratio, puts way more torque to the road than S10 in 3rd at the same speed. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the Tacoma, in 3rd at 90 kph will out-pull S10 in 3rd, judging strictly by seat-of-the-pants pulling trailers up the same hill that would get the S10 into 3rd gear hell. S10 in 3rd was, of course, 1:1 -- equivalent ratio to 4th in Tacoma.

    Now of course, I don't have a manual S10 or an automatic Tacoma to give a more direct comparison, but I will say that going from an automatic S10 to a manual Tacoma, there is a lot more usable power.

    I suspect that comparing a manual S10 to a manual Tacoma would yield more usable power from the manual S10 simply due to closer gear spacing and the ability to select the more appropriate gear ratio. I also have seen people complain that an automatic Tacoma 2.7 is somewhat gutless.

    In case it isn't clear, I'm really not a fan of S10.
     
  13. May 2, 2012 at 10:24 AM
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    I love my 4 banger, it has decent power, but is no race car by any means. Only time I really notice I have a 4 banger is on windy days or in hill country, even then I can still pull most steep hills in 4th gear at 65, it will also pull many hills in 5th too. The 5 speed is a solid and reliable transmission, although I am not a fan of the clutch, but I think there is a TSB for a heavier duty clutch which what mine sure needs. I average anywhere from 20-24mpg mixed highway and city. I've also done some towing with it and it towed 2580lbs without any problems.
     
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    I went from a 4.7 V8 Durango to a 4 banger Taco. I only miss the power on rare occasions when I need to pass uphill or pull out on the highway in thick traffic. It is doable, but requires more precision. Most day to day driving, no difference noticed besides a whole lot more money in my pocket:D
     
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