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2002 Rear lift help

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Gr8WhiteTaco, Dec 21, 2009.

  1. Dec 21, 2009 at 8:38 AM
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    I'm getting some 2" Lift Shackles from BeefedTaco and I've got some questions about rear suspension stuff. What would be some good shocks to install with the 2" lift or can I just use the stock/existing shock? Also is this a garage/DIY mod or is installing the shackles and shocks best left to the pros? I don't know if you have to worry about any technical stuff (pinion angle, driveline stuff, etc). And is there any other parts I need to buy to make the lift work? Thanks for any help.:)
     
  2. Dec 21, 2009 at 12:30 PM
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    Definantly an in garage job. Did both of them (shackles and shocks) in an hour or hour and a half. For the shackles its basically just removing bolts, putting tension on the leafs (i used a small jack). The shocks are direct bolt replacement. I went with bilstein 5125 and couldnt be happier. Call or email sonny at downsouth motorsports and he should be able to tell you what leangth shocks you need.
     
  3. Dec 21, 2009 at 12:31 PM
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    but one suggestion that I did was put the shackles on first. measure the height from eye to eye of the shock, and with that info you can get exactly the right size shock.
     
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    the 5150's are piggybacks right?0
    EDIT nevermind you got 5125's
     
  5. Dec 21, 2009 at 12:43 PM
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    the 5125s are 5100s that are custom leangths. ( I believe)
     
  6. Dec 21, 2009 at 12:44 PM
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    What length and travel shocks do you have Dylan?
     
  7. Dec 21, 2009 at 12:46 PM
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    oh man. I have completely forgotten. and thanks to a terrible spot for all of my paperwork my mom threw the papers away. Sorry!!
     
  8. Dec 21, 2009 at 1:01 PM
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    I'm getting the same shackles form Beefed, I was just gonna throw them on myself and use the stock shocks at first. If I have any problems with the length of the stock ones, I'll buy new longer shocks.
     
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    ok Q's are answered
     
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    See thats what I would do BUT I'm scared I'll bust a shock by over-extending them since they wouldn't be longer to match the lift
     
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    True. But I'm on a tight budget, so my plan was to throw the shackles on and see how the shocks act. If they are fine then I'll save some cash and just stick with the stock shocks. But if they are bottoming out, I'll go buy something longer.
     
  12. Dec 21, 2009 at 1:19 PM
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    You'll will more than likely overextend the OEM shocks, just get some aftermarket shocks. ie. 5125's and 8" or 10" travel, I'd recommend 10". Same with brake line, just get it for peace of mind, you don't want to flex/stretch the OEM line too much.

    New shackles should come with bushings if it doesn't, get some. Use Mobil 1 grease on the bushings to minimize squeaks.
     
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    Sure, I guess you can...but I wouldn't use it. Since the shackles are new, shouldn't the bushings be new too? I'd hate to do the job twice just to cheap out on a few bucks.
     
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    How much does a set of new 5125's cost?

    Beefed doesn't incluse new bushings with his shackles. He says the old ones should be ok to use.
     
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    Ok. I'm looking at the 5125's on downsouthmotorsprts.com. I'll check on the brake lines n bushings later
     
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    you will definantly overextend the shocks. It was pretty nastey for the few days i didnt have the new shocks. it pulled the back of the truck down over every bump. I have an AAL as well as the shackles thouhg
     
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    5125 is about ~$150 + shipping (give or take)
     
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    Is that per 2 or 4?
     
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    yeah i agree with ^^. dont skimp guys. this is your suspension. a very important part of your truck. if you cant afford to do it the right way then wait till you can. if you can only afford shackles at this time then buy them and hold onto them until you can get new bushings. the old ones will probably crack and disenigrate when you try and take them out leaving you only to go buy them anyways and have your truck halfway apart while doing so. as for the brake line it probably more important than the bushings!! if you over flex and snap it then your f'ed. no more brakes, call a tow truck. its only about $10 why risk it?

    the way you guys are going about things is dangerous. i too am on a VERY strict budget as how im going to college on only student loans and grants without a job for extra money, so that means that my truck payment, insurance, gas, rent, and truck maintence all comes from one predetermined source leaving hardly no extra cash. save it until you can do things the right way to prevent yourself from getting hurt, someone else from getting hurt, or fixing something that could have been prevented if you had done it the correct way the first time.
     
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    Thats exactly why I'm asking all this stuff now so that I can figure out what all I need to get before I take the rear suspension apart because I only wanna do it once.
     
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