1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

2005 - 2016 Archive Garage Premium Shackle Flip Lift Kit

Discussion in 'Archive Garage' started by ARCHIVE, Nov 30, 2015.

  1. Jul 7, 2016 at 5:02 PM
    #341
    kumz

    kumz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2013
    Member:
    #103998
    Messages:
    559
    Gender:
    Male
    No prob. Id definitely go off what springs you have prior to drilling any holes. I don't have an exact measurement of the all pro springs, but hear they and the stock pack is longer than the Dakar pack. A little forward definitely goes a long way.
     
  2. Jul 7, 2016 at 5:04 PM
    #342
    weldo

    weldo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Member:
    #140423
    Messages:
    1,339
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Pittsburgh, pa
    Vehicle:
    2014 base ac 2.7 5-speed 4x4
    Anyone know if this kit would work with Chevy 63s? Or do you have to move the shackle mount rearward for those?
     
  3. Jul 7, 2016 at 5:08 PM
    #343
    Pigpen

    Pigpen My truck is never clean

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2012
    Member:
    #74319
    Messages:
    8,867
    Gender:
    Male
    Northwest Montana
    Vehicle:
    2012 AC Manual 4.0 4x4 Base Model
    Access cab toolbox/ dog bed with seats and headrests deleted, waterproof TRD seat covers, yellow wire mod, diff breather relocated to tail light, engine block heater, Leer topper with Yakima tracks and rack, Yakima rack on cab, Ride Rite with Daystar cradles, CBI hidden front hitch, wired for winch front and rear Warn quick connect, Warn x8000i on external carrier, sway bar delete, trailer plug relocated to bumper, Pelfreybilt IFS and Mid skids, ECGS front diff bushing, ARB CKMA12 compressor, 255/85/16 Toyo M55 load E tires on stock steel rims, Up2NoGood heated mirror kit, Husky X-act Contour front floor liners, Northstar AGM 27F battery, Pelfreybilt bolt on sliders with kickout and top plates, TRD Pro headlights, Depo smoked tail lights, Energy suspension body mount bushing kit, Cobra 75WXST cb with rear mounted Wilson 3' antenna on Shmellmopwho mount, OME Dakar leaf packs with AAL, Billstein B110 rear shocks, 5100s with 885 coils and 1/4" spacers, SPC LR UCAs, 2wd low range mod
    @SMKYTXN
     
  4. Jul 7, 2016 at 5:09 PM
    #344
    SMKYTXN

    SMKYTXN If it can't be overdone it's not worth doing Vendor

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2011
    Member:
    #52810
    Messages:
    14,018
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Nathan
    Houston
    Vehicle:
    11, 4dr, TRD Sport, 6sp
    DCFB
    The rear hanger has to move a good deal backwards for 63's.
     
  5. Jul 7, 2016 at 5:10 PM
    #345
    weldo

    weldo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Member:
    #140423
    Messages:
    1,339
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Pittsburgh, pa
    Vehicle:
    2014 base ac 2.7 5-speed 4x4
    Thanks man! Wasn't sure. I recently did ORIs on the front now I'm unsure what to do on the rear. Exploring options.
     
  6. Jul 7, 2016 at 8:57 PM
    #346
    Littles

    Littles Stupid is as stupid does.

    Joined:
    May 14, 2014
    Member:
    #129837
    Messages:
    2,441
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Bryan
    Castle Rock, CO
    Vehicle:
    3 tons of fun
    I moved forward about 1 and 1/8 inch from the forward most position. I drilled 4 new holes in the frame and 1 in the shackle hanger. I'm much happier with the angle now. :thumbsup: I'll have to check how the spring look compressed this weekend.

    image.jpg
    image.jpg
     
    Crom and deeezy like this.
  7. Jul 7, 2016 at 10:29 PM
    #347
    Pigpen

    Pigpen My truck is never clean

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2012
    Member:
    #74319
    Messages:
    8,867
    Gender:
    Male
    Northwest Montana
    Vehicle:
    2012 AC Manual 4.0 4x4 Base Model
    Access cab toolbox/ dog bed with seats and headrests deleted, waterproof TRD seat covers, yellow wire mod, diff breather relocated to tail light, engine block heater, Leer topper with Yakima tracks and rack, Yakima rack on cab, Ride Rite with Daystar cradles, CBI hidden front hitch, wired for winch front and rear Warn quick connect, Warn x8000i on external carrier, sway bar delete, trailer plug relocated to bumper, Pelfreybilt IFS and Mid skids, ECGS front diff bushing, ARB CKMA12 compressor, 255/85/16 Toyo M55 load E tires on stock steel rims, Up2NoGood heated mirror kit, Husky X-act Contour front floor liners, Northstar AGM 27F battery, Pelfreybilt bolt on sliders with kickout and top plates, TRD Pro headlights, Depo smoked tail lights, Energy suspension body mount bushing kit, Cobra 75WXST cb with rear mounted Wilson 3' antenna on Shmellmopwho mount, OME Dakar leaf packs with AAL, Billstein B110 rear shocks, 5100s with 885 coils and 1/4" spacers, SPC LR UCAs, 2wd low range mod
    Perfection. What spring pack?
     
  8. Jul 7, 2016 at 10:40 PM
    #348
    Littles

    Littles Stupid is as stupid does.

    Joined:
    May 14, 2014
    Member:
    #129837
    Messages:
    2,441
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Bryan
    Castle Rock, CO
    Vehicle:
    3 tons of fun
  9. Jul 7, 2016 at 10:41 PM
    #349
    Pigpen

    Pigpen My truck is never clean

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2012
    Member:
    #74319
    Messages:
    8,867
    Gender:
    Male
    Northwest Montana
    Vehicle:
    2012 AC Manual 4.0 4x4 Base Model
    Access cab toolbox/ dog bed with seats and headrests deleted, waterproof TRD seat covers, yellow wire mod, diff breather relocated to tail light, engine block heater, Leer topper with Yakima tracks and rack, Yakima rack on cab, Ride Rite with Daystar cradles, CBI hidden front hitch, wired for winch front and rear Warn quick connect, Warn x8000i on external carrier, sway bar delete, trailer plug relocated to bumper, Pelfreybilt IFS and Mid skids, ECGS front diff bushing, ARB CKMA12 compressor, 255/85/16 Toyo M55 load E tires on stock steel rims, Up2NoGood heated mirror kit, Husky X-act Contour front floor liners, Northstar AGM 27F battery, Pelfreybilt bolt on sliders with kickout and top plates, TRD Pro headlights, Depo smoked tail lights, Energy suspension body mount bushing kit, Cobra 75WXST cb with rear mounted Wilson 3' antenna on Shmellmopwho mount, OME Dakar leaf packs with AAL, Billstein B110 rear shocks, 5100s with 885 coils and 1/4" spacers, SPC LR UCAs, 2wd low range mod
    Littles likes this.
  10. Jul 8, 2016 at 2:19 PM
    #350
    weldo

    weldo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Member:
    #140423
    Messages:
    1,339
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Pittsburgh, pa
    Vehicle:
    2014 base ac 2.7 5-speed 4x4
    does drilling new holes screw up the cross member at all? If I recall that cross member uses the rivets to fasten it to the frame. Once the rivets are gone the shackle hanger bolts take their place. Are you guys putting some bolts through the factory holes just to hold the cross member?
     
  11. Jul 8, 2016 at 2:36 PM
    #351
    Littles

    Littles Stupid is as stupid does.

    Joined:
    May 14, 2014
    Member:
    #129837
    Messages:
    2,441
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Bryan
    Castle Rock, CO
    Vehicle:
    3 tons of fun
    It won't mess up your cross member. You should be able to get a bolt in the rear most position, if you take a look at @kumz photo post #310. I also had to bend just the corner of the cross member to get the nut on the side of the frame where I drilled the top.
     
    weldo likes this.
  12. Jul 8, 2016 at 2:47 PM
    #352
    deeezy

    deeezy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2013
    Member:
    #111645
    Messages:
    5,170
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dana
    Hawaii
    Vehicle:
    2013 4x4 DC, 6 spd, TRD Sport
    King ext travel coilovers, Icon tubular UCA's Rear-King "Tundra" 2.5's, Allpro Expos, TRD cat-back, Hurst/Core short shift kit, etc...
    If a lot of people are moving the hangars forward, it would be awesome if the kit was designed to be able to mount like that without needing to drill additional holes.
     
  13. Jul 8, 2016 at 3:38 PM
    #353
    Littles

    Littles Stupid is as stupid does.

    Joined:
    May 14, 2014
    Member:
    #129837
    Messages:
    2,441
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Bryan
    Castle Rock, CO
    Vehicle:
    3 tons of fun
    I agree...it'll help make sure things stay lined up on either side if you can utilize the pre-existing holes you spent hours removing rivets from. But even with more pre-drilled holes, I don't think you're going to get away from putting at least 1 or 2 new holes in the frame somewhere. The cross member does create some complications in terms of bolt placement.
     
    ARCHIVE [OP] likes this.
  14. Jul 8, 2016 at 3:44 PM
    #354
    Pigpen

    Pigpen My truck is never clean

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2012
    Member:
    #74319
    Messages:
    8,867
    Gender:
    Male
    Northwest Montana
    Vehicle:
    2012 AC Manual 4.0 4x4 Base Model
    Access cab toolbox/ dog bed with seats and headrests deleted, waterproof TRD seat covers, yellow wire mod, diff breather relocated to tail light, engine block heater, Leer topper with Yakima tracks and rack, Yakima rack on cab, Ride Rite with Daystar cradles, CBI hidden front hitch, wired for winch front and rear Warn quick connect, Warn x8000i on external carrier, sway bar delete, trailer plug relocated to bumper, Pelfreybilt IFS and Mid skids, ECGS front diff bushing, ARB CKMA12 compressor, 255/85/16 Toyo M55 load E tires on stock steel rims, Up2NoGood heated mirror kit, Husky X-act Contour front floor liners, Northstar AGM 27F battery, Pelfreybilt bolt on sliders with kickout and top plates, TRD Pro headlights, Depo smoked tail lights, Energy suspension body mount bushing kit, Cobra 75WXST cb with rear mounted Wilson 3' antenna on Shmellmopwho mount, OME Dakar leaf packs with AAL, Billstein B110 rear shocks, 5100s with 885 coils and 1/4" spacers, SPC LR UCAs, 2wd low range mod
    If the bracket is changed to move the hanger forward, maybe the hole pattern will be changed too to avoid the cross member. There seem to be many of us on Dakars who would like to do this. Maybe there are enough of us to warrant a Dakar specific bracket. I, for one, can wait - or maybe there's something out there that works better. Maybe one of you guys will even come up with an improved bracket and start selling them. Time will tell, and I've got time.
     
    RacecarGuy likes this.
  15. Jul 8, 2016 at 4:14 PM
    #355
    deeezy

    deeezy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2013
    Member:
    #111645
    Messages:
    5,170
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dana
    Hawaii
    Vehicle:
    2013 4x4 DC, 6 spd, TRD Sport
    King ext travel coilovers, Icon tubular UCA's Rear-King "Tundra" 2.5's, Allpro Expos, TRD cat-back, Hurst/Core short shift kit, etc...
    I think the hole pattern could definitely be changed to miss the cross member. Either that, or the location of the hangar on the bracket could be moved a tad bit forward.
     
  16. Jul 8, 2016 at 4:34 PM
    #356
    Rusty15Tacoma

    Rusty15Tacoma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2015
    Member:
    #161711
    Messages:
    742
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rusty
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2015 MGM TRD Offroad
    Bilstein 5100 w/ OME 886, Built Right UCA's, Dirt King LCA's, 5125 2"-2.5" lift rear shocks, Alcan HD 8pack rear, Level 8 Guardian 16" wheels, blacked out badges, 285/75R16 Hercules Trail Digger, 20% tint, BHLM Retrofit.
    Has this problem been addressed with the other two shackle flip options? Or do they have the same issue?
     
    N-C.nebulosus likes this.
  17. Jul 8, 2016 at 4:42 PM
    #357
    deeezy

    deeezy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2013
    Member:
    #111645
    Messages:
    5,170
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dana
    Hawaii
    Vehicle:
    2013 4x4 DC, 6 spd, TRD Sport
    King ext travel coilovers, Icon tubular UCA's Rear-King "Tundra" 2.5's, Allpro Expos, TRD cat-back, Hurst/Core short shift kit, etc...
    The other two do not have this issue.
     
    Pigpen likes this.
  18. Jul 8, 2016 at 5:04 PM
    #358
    weldo

    weldo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Member:
    #140423
    Messages:
    1,339
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Pittsburgh, pa
    Vehicle:
    2014 base ac 2.7 5-speed 4x4
    I know ATO has one, but who's the other? I like that the Archive kit uses a regular 2 piece style shackle. I think it's a bit simpler and easy to make your own custom lengths if you need to.

    The one thing that bugged me about the ATO kit is how close some of the holes are to each other. Even to the point that the holes overlap a small amount. Not the strongest in my opinion, but I love how highly adjustable that kit is.
     
    ARCHIVE [OP] likes this.
  19. Jul 8, 2016 at 5:13 PM
    #359
    Rusty15Tacoma

    Rusty15Tacoma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2015
    Member:
    #161711
    Messages:
    742
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rusty
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2015 MGM TRD Offroad
    Bilstein 5100 w/ OME 886, Built Right UCA's, Dirt King LCA's, 5125 2"-2.5" lift rear shocks, Alcan HD 8pack rear, Level 8 Guardian 16" wheels, blacked out badges, 285/75R16 Hercules Trail Digger, 20% tint, BHLM Retrofit.
  20. Jul 8, 2016 at 5:14 PM
    #360
    Pigpen

    Pigpen My truck is never clean

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2012
    Member:
    #74319
    Messages:
    8,867
    Gender:
    Male
    Northwest Montana
    Vehicle:
    2012 AC Manual 4.0 4x4 Base Model
    Access cab toolbox/ dog bed with seats and headrests deleted, waterproof TRD seat covers, yellow wire mod, diff breather relocated to tail light, engine block heater, Leer topper with Yakima tracks and rack, Yakima rack on cab, Ride Rite with Daystar cradles, CBI hidden front hitch, wired for winch front and rear Warn quick connect, Warn x8000i on external carrier, sway bar delete, trailer plug relocated to bumper, Pelfreybilt IFS and Mid skids, ECGS front diff bushing, ARB CKMA12 compressor, 255/85/16 Toyo M55 load E tires on stock steel rims, Up2NoGood heated mirror kit, Husky X-act Contour front floor liners, Northstar AGM 27F battery, Pelfreybilt bolt on sliders with kickout and top plates, TRD Pro headlights, Depo smoked tail lights, Energy suspension body mount bushing kit, Cobra 75WXST cb with rear mounted Wilson 3' antenna on Shmellmopwho mount, OME Dakar leaf packs with AAL, Billstein B110 rear shocks, 5100s with 885 coils and 1/4" spacers, SPC LR UCAs, 2wd low range mod
    SOS makes a kit and a fancy shackle
     

Products Discussed in

To Top