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2005 - 2016 Archive Garage Premium Shackle Flip Lift Kit

Discussion in 'Archive Garage' started by ARCHIVE, Nov 30, 2015.

  1. Oct 7, 2016 at 8:18 PM
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  2. Oct 9, 2016 at 2:15 PM
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    Hey Eric. Any news on the SUA kit? It looks like a really solid kit, thoughts on pricing it?
     
  3. Oct 9, 2016 at 8:23 PM
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    so will these work with the OME Dakar leaf packs and which size shock would work best with this kit?
     
  4. Oct 10, 2016 at 5:41 AM
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    I currently just got all icon in the back, aal(51100), shock(59905p), also the rear hydraulic bump stop(56103)and u bolt flip striker plate(56105). My question is if I go flip do I need to change out any of these parts listed above?
     
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  5. Oct 10, 2016 at 5:51 AM
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    I spent 99% of time on road. And try to make time to get out of NYC to go offroad. But is really hard 6 days of work and with a toddler and a newborn. So for now all I could do is get my rig offroad ready.
     
  6. Oct 10, 2016 at 2:21 PM
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    Hey Mike, I'm ready to sell it, can ship a kit this week, I just have not listed it for sale on my site just yet. Price will be $250 plus shipping, discount for returning customers,
    So have you decided on going SUA? Message me for more information or to talk about your plans

    Yes, this kit is working with dozens of trucks with Dakars. Shock length I'd recommend something around 27" extended, just watch your compressed length doesn't get to long. Check out previous posts from Kumz, littles, HolyHandGrenade

    Hey, the only part I wonder about compatibility with is the shock length extended. Can you tell me that spec? I would hope for 25" min length with a total lift about 2.5" using AAL and the shackle flip. See results from Hoosiertaco a few pages back in the thread, he has the new Tacoma leafs and AAL and it looked great to me.

    Eric
     
  7. Oct 10, 2016 at 4:58 PM
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    I just got a different brand shackle flip a few months ago..... Now I want this and the SUA :p
     
  8. Oct 10, 2016 at 6:15 PM
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    This kit with a shock relocate has some serious droop! Bout an inch of downtravel left, tire still on the ground

    5" up travel, 7" downtravel. Thanks @ARCHIVE, loving it :yes:
     
  9. Oct 10, 2016 at 6:35 PM
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    I didnt measure because my dogs were being impatient, but I still had a little left.

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  10. Oct 10, 2016 at 6:38 PM
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    Waiting for Eric to make a shock relocate kit.
     
  11. Oct 11, 2016 at 12:01 PM
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    Same here. Just installed the springs I want, now waiting to see the shock relocation design.
     
  12. Oct 11, 2016 at 3:26 PM
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    Time to share what I have so far. This is a chance for TW members to give input on what you all want the shock relocation to do and look like.

    This is the design that I came up with allowing 2.5" smooth body 14" shocks from FOX and Kings are about 23.4" compressed and 37.4" extended but I may end up going with a single upper position for simplicity and lower cost.
    This fits under the bed without cutting it, but I plan to have 2 holes drilled up through bed wheel well shelf for added stability.
    I want to make the upper mount bolt on, with holes matchdrilled into the frame.
    The lower axle mount can rotate from horizontal down to 45+ degrees without binding on the shock.

    Waiting to hear your suggestions!
    Thanks, Eric

    Edit: this shows a worst case scenario, a 14" travel shock with SUA allowing more bump travel than stock and spring over setups are capable of. In this scenario, the lower axle mount has to rotate down below axle tube, showing you can stuff 14" travel 2.5" shocks under the bed, no cutting.

    If you look at adjustment holes every inch, the upper mount could drop 4" or the lower axle mounts can rotate up, or both, for lifted trucks or significant droop travel.
     
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  13. Oct 11, 2016 at 3:38 PM
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    Bolt-on hmm? I'd weld that puppy just to be safe, or maybe I'm just not sure what I'm looking at yet. Otherwise, hot-diggity! This will be a great option for SUA LT setups that don't want to cut through the bed.
     
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    Looks great Eric!

    At first thought I would agree that welding to the frame would probably be preferable to bolting, but after thinking a bit more, there's probably more stress on the rear shackle hanger than there would be on a shock mount. I mean, the shock adds resistance to the movement of the axle and if the axle moves quickly (like hitting a high speed bump) the resistance could be quite high. But ultimately the shock moves freely without significant weight, unlike the shackle hanger that sees the full weight of the vehicle and then some.

    Adjustable is a great idea. With the other shock mounting options out there you have to get close with your shock length and then kind of fine tune with bump stop spacers. With adjustable shock mounts you could possibly simple move the upper shock mount. Cool stuff.

    Maybe you can offer a weld it yourself kit to cut costs? Most guys considering this mod probably have at least some welding experience.

    That's what I'm banking on! :D
     
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    Hey Eric, I just got the latest issue of Outdoor x 4 in the mail and they featured your shackle flip! Did you know about this? That's pretty cool! It was part of a Tacoma project build they've been working on.

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  16. Oct 11, 2016 at 6:55 PM
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    Oh that's cool to see, I've been waiting for that to hit, my subscription just expired! I renewed but didn't get the issue yet.
    Thanks for posting, can't wait to read it
     
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    Sure thing dude! You make some awesome products!

    I plan on contacting you in a few weeks about the SUA kit. I just finished a long road trip so I have some bills to pay. I need a few paychecks first.
     
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    First of all, let me just say I'm terrible at explaining things.

    Looking at the diagram I have one concern and a possible second.

    1) The lower shock mount (I'm assuming the axle is the circle pictured), is lower than the axle. Not a huge deal, but even with or above the axle tube would be ideal for ground clearence.

    2) Not sure if I understand how the shock tower is mounted. Let's assume we're looking at 2"x4" tubing, for arguments sake. If the tower sits with the 2" side against at the frame, with the 4" side away or towards the tire, you only have 2" against the frame holding all the force from the shock/axle. I have a CJ5 which only had the small 1.5" wide shock mounts against the top of the frame and after some time, they've cracked and ripped through the frame. I'm no engineer, but it makes me a touch uneasy.

    If the diagram actually shows the 4" wide tube against the frame, then this is another story. Not to call out another company, but essentially if you look at the BAMF mount, this would be ideal compared to the 2" mount I'm speaking about.

    While Fox and King shocks are popular, and great shocks, making it possible to use a more budget friendly shock will increase your customer appeal.

    I have a short bed double cab. I am pretty much against anything going into my bed regarding shock mounts. There is limited room, but just enough for my needs, but every inch matters.

    My $.02
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  20. Oct 12, 2016 at 5:27 AM
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    I apologize for the lame 2D drawing, it's hard to see what's going on here. It's all brake formed 3/16" steel. The contact patch on frame is 5.8" × 7.6" if you look closely to left of "bottom of frame". All the measuring is done, very confident there, I'm just talking my time with turning the measurements into final design.


    My drawing shows a worst case scenario, a 14" travel shock with SUA allowing more bump travel than stock and spring over setups are capable of. In this scenario, the lower axle mount has to rotate down below axle tube, showing you can stuff 14" travel 2.5" shocks under the bed, no cutting.

    If you look at adjustment holes every inch, the upper mount could drop 4" or the lower axle mounts can rotate up to horizontal as shown in left of drawing for a clean axle, or both, for lifted trucks or significant droop travel.

    Yes, FOX and King and Icon are great, but I am sure it hurts to drop $800+ on rear shocks, and that is another reason I wanted adjustment, to fit affordable rod end Bilsteins or $50 old school shocks like Procomp has. A lot of owners are using these trucks on slow trails in 4x4, so they mainly want the flexibility.

    Eric
     

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