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2005 tacoma 2nd gen terminal frame rot rust cancer

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by tacomeontherange, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. Apr 25, 2013 at 3:54 PM
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    Welcome to TW & sorry for the rust.

    You were correct to check it at first. I'm actually amazed you didn't see any. I'm in NJ and they salt the roads like no other. I was sanding and painting my frame after 1 winter.

    Good luck in your soon to be long drawn out battle. It's the first guys who have to sacrifice the most.

    You could always just go trade it in :D
     
  2. Apr 26, 2013 at 4:41 AM
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    tacomeontherange [OP] this ain't no picnic

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    I'll try to write up some notes on steps that can be taken.
     
  3. Apr 26, 2013 at 5:00 AM
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    Sounds like a great idea :thumbsup:
    Hopefully it will help expedite others battles but it was unfortunate that yours had to take so long. I guess the pioneers have to lead the way, slow and steady.
     
  4. Apr 26, 2013 at 5:13 AM
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    Not sure how manufacturers got so fascinated with boxed frames, both my old trucks didn't have boxed frames and not only were they tough as nails but no rust to speak of except a little surface rust and they both lived in high salt areas all their lives.
     
  5. Apr 26, 2013 at 6:02 AM
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    Weight, fuel economy and cost is why they went to box frames. They should at least gives us the option to get the frame galvanized. I would pay an extra grand for that and then our trucks would last 50 years at least.
     
  6. Apr 26, 2013 at 7:13 AM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    This is not only boxed frame problem. Frames are no longer dipped in paint. So inside of the frame gets crappy paint job. As if that was not bad enough, boxed frame is made out of layers of metal allowing moisture to be trapped and not allowing any protection film to get there.
    As if that was not enough, somebody put holes in the frame next to wheels. So when truck rolls through snow/slush/water, front wheels splash it into the frame. I covered mine with aluminum tape.
    Op frame failure and the other guy failure is right across that vent hole. So that's probably how they rusted.
     
  7. Apr 26, 2013 at 7:15 AM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    And that's why toyota wants those frames to fail. They don't want see 2005 Tacoma still driving in 2105 :D
     
  8. Apr 26, 2013 at 7:37 AM
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    When i was shopping for a Tacoma i saw two "05" Tacomas at Toyota dealers that were "certified" and had very rusty frames. found my 2010 with a spotless undercarriage but it came from the south, these "05" were Northeast trucks. needless to say i am anal about washing my truck after any wet weather including washing undercarriage.
     
  9. Apr 26, 2013 at 7:40 AM
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    Sadly you are probably right. I am looking into a local hot dip galvanizing company here. Their tank may be large enough to do a toyota frame. Not the taco but the 80s and 90s pre-taco pickups.
     
  10. Apr 30, 2013 at 1:33 PM
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    That would definitely be appreciated. I'm going to take the rig into the dealership in a couple weeks to get inspected. I'm not holding my breath for anything, still think it would be good to get the ball rolling on some action though. Feel free to PM me/post here with any more info on the process you went through.
     
  11. Apr 30, 2013 at 2:07 PM
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    Just traded my rust bucket in for a new loaded F350 diesel. Regardless of possible buy backs in the future, I couldn't deal with it any more.
     
  12. Apr 30, 2013 at 2:12 PM
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    After reading most of this thread I went out and looked under my 2013. It looks like theres a plastic cap in the frame where OP's rust is. Heres a few pictures-[​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    any trailer boat manufacturers in your area? I would expect so. they usually have huge tanks. I know Load Rite does and they are local to me.

    good find.

    fucking Toyota and their 1/2 assed fixes...

    this is of course proof of the problem if they change their production process and fabricate a new part to retrofit into older frame designs. maybe in 10 years they won't have any holes :laugh:
     
  14. Apr 30, 2013 at 3:07 PM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Is there a plastic cap on the frame from the wheel side? That's where water, snow, and ice get thrown in from. If there is that means my duct tape fix is way cheaper.
     
  15. Apr 30, 2013 at 4:12 PM
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    Yep, there is. I didnt realize there was one on the outside too, straight across from the inner one. It feels kinda flimsy, and loose. I dont think its gonna stop water from getting in. Maybe I'll put some duct tape over it, that might help. lol
     
  16. Apr 30, 2013 at 4:20 PM
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    good find.

    fucking Toyota and their 1/2 assed fixes...

    this is of course proof of the problem if they change their production process and fabricate a new part to retrofit into older frame designs. maybe in 10 years they won't have any holes :laugh:[/QUOTE]
    I agree with you, they must have had enough complaints about it so this is how they fixed it I guess.
     
  17. Apr 30, 2013 at 7:26 PM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Ha ha so this is a proof that Toyota reads this forum... :D
    Here is what I posted 3 years ago, about these holes being culprit of accelerated frame rust. You can see my tape solution
    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/128974-winter-trick-help-protect-frame.html

    I simply covered them with aluminum tape used on furnaces (so its heat resistant and oil resistant)
    [​IMG]
    Hey Toyota if you used my Idea, can I at least get new frame.. .. I will bring tape :D
     
  18. May 1, 2013 at 3:37 PM
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    Looks like the tape worked pretty good! Sad that we would have to do something like that on a $30,000 truck but like you said, they probably read your thread so now we got fancy plastic caps! lol Despite the rust issues and some things that they could improve,I do love Toyota.
     
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    :confused: .....^^^........thats my post.... these interwebz is :goingcrazy:
     
  20. May 1, 2013 at 3:41 PM
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    Just checked this issue on mine the other day. No problems at this point, but I do live in the south...that plastic cap is hilarious. FWIW my 09 does not have them.
     
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