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2005 tacoma 2nd gen terminal frame rot rust cancer

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by tacomeontherange, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. Dec 17, 2012 at 6:05 PM
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  3. Dec 17, 2012 at 7:03 PM
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  4. Dec 17, 2012 at 7:39 PM
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    @Coolerman, I'm in the Toronto area, our roads get salted pretty good, I've ALWAYS oil sprayed. I won't even purchased a used vehicle that hasn't been sprayed, I go to a local franchise called Oil Guard, but my buddy insists Krown Rust Proofing is the best.

    MY FRAME IS MINT, I OIL SPRAY YEARLY.

    Why yearly, because from year to year, a different person does it, and I would assume some spots get missed. If I do it yearly, nothing should get missed.

    Here is Canada the recall was for 95 1/2 Tacomas I recall.
     
  5. Dec 17, 2012 at 8:04 PM
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  6. Dec 17, 2012 at 8:06 PM
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  7. Dec 17, 2012 at 10:33 PM
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    That's scary, def not safe to drive, hope you get a new or newer truck out of the deal. I thought Toyota bought them back if the frames were rotten? I remember reading somewhere where Toyota bought a 1st gen back from a guy that had frame rust and he got in a new truck or something.
     
  8. Dec 17, 2012 at 10:57 PM
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    This is frightening! I hope they make it right!

    Best wishes OP!

    Keep us posted...
     
  9. Dec 18, 2012 at 12:53 AM
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    Here in Canada, Toyota was taking your truck in on trade that had a book value of between 10k to 12k and giving you a trade of 20k.
    They wouldn't fix it, just take it on trade and crush it.

    OIL YOUR TRUCKS NOW
     
  10. Dec 18, 2012 at 1:04 AM
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  11. Dec 18, 2012 at 12:07 PM
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    tacomeontherange [OP] this ain't no picnic

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    The supportive comments are appreciated, truly.

    This is second generation (2005) and that's a whole new ballgame for toyota. Can we please keep comments and experiences restricted to 2nd gen vehicles? it's going to cut down on false hope and the leads that people like me will need to chase.

    I agree that TMC are in a more difficult position now that we can organize better online. I am already formulating strategies for that if it comes to it.

    attached are fresh photos from the dealer.

    initial response communicated to me by the dealer was that the regional toyota rep basically told him I could jump in a lake.

    We bought this used from the dealer (spring 2011) and the paperwork clearly states "as is with all faults", the lemon law here does not apply to used vehicles, and there is no state vehicle inspection for road worthiness here (remember that the next time you have to get inspected and be thankful that someone is looking at the bare minimum for you).

    Since the dealer shop has done significant work (tires, alignment, multipoint inspections, oil & rotation) over the 20months we've had the truck we think this might be a pressure point (vis a vis negligence) in addition to the 100point inspection they claim to have done before selling it to us.

    The dealer service supervisor is getting back on the line to the regional rep to press him for a solution.

    Our position remains that the dealer or TMC needs to make this right, that we are not going to flush our investment in this vehicle.

    I am making contact with attorneys and will begin trying to track down corrosion experts so that we are prepared if it comes to it.

    stay tuned for more news

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  12. Dec 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM
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    Anyone who reads this needs to get their ass under the truck if you buy a used one. OP's truck was clearly neglected.

    A simple 1 minute inspection could of solved his issue.

    I have no idea how people can buy used vehicles and not look at them???

    At some point people need to take on some of their own responsibility.

    I'm not saying this shouldn't of happened, but I can sure as hell state it will not happen to me. My frame was repainted on year one when I noticed rust and every year since then.
     
  14. Dec 18, 2012 at 12:59 PM
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    tacomeontherange [OP] this ain't no picnic

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    still in a loaner from the dealer.

    we paid cash & traded in for it.

    again: original owner works / worked for TMMK and the online service record shows dealer service throughout its life before it came to us. anyone know if there are TSBs related to frame and rust maintenance?
     
  15. Dec 18, 2012 at 1:04 PM
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    Dealer could of recommended the frame be protected and the owner said screw it Ill just sell it. Dealer serviced doesn't mean squat especially if the seller works for them. This is the worst case scenario because the seller is in bed with the company selling it.


    There are none for those specifics. There will be eventually, but sadly I doubt in time for you.

    I'm sure you already know your rust warranty is past it's prime.
     
  16. Dec 18, 2012 at 1:16 PM
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  17. Dec 18, 2012 at 1:20 PM
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    we traded in 2 vehicles... one of which was my 98 ford ranger, 4 cyl & 5 speed. they didn't offer dick for it. I miss that little truck.

    :-(
     
  18. Dec 18, 2012 at 3:14 PM
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    Sub'd for updates but I've owned a lot of toyotas and there are currently 3 2nd gen tacos in my family. If Ive learned one thing about used cars but specifically Toyota trucks its
    Check for rust before you buy and then at every oil change
     
  19. Dec 18, 2012 at 3:45 PM
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    How can one check for rust in a fully boxed frame? Once you see it, I would assume it is too late
     
  20. Dec 18, 2012 at 5:05 PM
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    Theres a few holes in the frame you can reach a finger in to feel around. If it feels like smooth metal your good, if not then your kinda sol. Also take a small hammer and hit the frame, if the pitch changes then more than likely you have found a rust spot.

    Edit: common spots are where the op has and also in front of the rear spring hanger. This not comes from my exp but from a Toyota tech who's worked for the last 20 years.
     

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