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2005 tacoma 2nd gen terminal frame rot rust cancer

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas' started by tacomeontherange, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. Dec 19, 2012 at 6:31 AM
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    BlueT

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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Also OP
    I had started frame rusted through club in 2011
    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/164013-frame-rusted-through-club.html :D

    This is how it starts. [​IMG]
    I went to Toyota to open the case. they supposedly send Eng but he said its not bad. However, I wanted them to have complain on books. Notice its similar spot o n the frame as yours just on the outside.

    Also I was spot on

     
  2. Dec 19, 2012 at 8:32 AM
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    tacomeontherange [OP] this ain't no picnic

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    a little brainstorming:

    I'm trying to come up with a good name for the group / campaign that we will need to run across the internet (website, facebook etc) to gather everyone who's having second gen problems.

    I was thinking rustytacos but, strangely, that's the name of a tex-mex franchise already. :eek:

    from the little I've seen, tundra owners are also experiencing these problems. so we want something inclusive.

    and we want something that is descriptive (hello search engines) without being subject to a take-down demand by TMC because it violates trademark or impugns their good name or some crap like that.

    ideas?
     
  3. Dec 19, 2012 at 8:39 AM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    I just sent you PM with pottential name. :D
     
  4. Dec 19, 2012 at 8:42 AM
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    tacomeontherange

    tacomeontherange [OP] this ain't no picnic

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    yeah, feel free to PM them to me if you don't want to share with the class just yet

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Dec 19, 2012 at 8:43 AM
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    Hmm. Im gonna stick my inspection camera in the boxed part of the frame this week. I wonder how bad it is... Outside of the frame looks like shit
     
  6. Dec 19, 2012 at 8:47 AM
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    subbed because mine looked that bad (the surface rust areas) before i coated the exterior of the frame with chassis saver.
     
  7. Dec 19, 2012 at 9:30 AM
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    we're at approx 155,000 miles

    many thanks for the figures. very helpful.
     
  8. Dec 19, 2012 at 9:36 AM
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    those are some scary figures
     
  9. Dec 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM
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    Maybe you can work out a deal with the dealership. You buy the frame, they pickup the labor cost. In trade you keep it out of the local news.
     
  10. Dec 19, 2012 at 10:21 AM
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    Do you really think that frame rusted out in one year?

    Its the fact that the local dealership serviced and sold a vehicle with a rotten frame.
     
  11. Dec 19, 2012 at 10:36 AM
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    The news might... it's a safety concern. The dealership must be held accountable since they're the ones that supposedly did the so called "100 point inspection."
     
  12. Dec 19, 2012 at 10:46 AM
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    OffroadToy The dog did it...I swear!

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    But this one was sold after it got checked off by a 100 point inspection as safe to drive... only to find out its got a gapping hole in the frame so large that the dealership won't let the customer drive it home. :eek:
     
  13. Dec 19, 2012 at 12:15 PM
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    I was just contacted this morning by a guy I know well who has a 2005 and has the same exact hole just smaller. He has kept his frame up to par with sanding and painting on the exterior of the boxed section.
     
  14. Dec 19, 2012 at 12:25 PM
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    tell him to sign up and get in on this thread with us. has he contacted his dealer or TMC?
     
  15. Dec 19, 2012 at 12:48 PM
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    I'm not saying that the '05 owner didn't do this, but if someone opts to sand and paint, I think it's very important to use a self-etching primer or some other method to address the rust prior to applying a top coat. Without doing that, the rust just gets knocked down a bit and sanding provides more freshly roughed up steel for it to attack.
     
  16. Dec 19, 2012 at 1:32 PM
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    Good point, and another reason for using an inhibitor like Fluid Film. It's designed to stop rust, and can be cleaned off for further inspection; nothing done during manufacturing is disturbed. A disadvantage of hard shell undercoating treatments is that they eventually allow water to enter through cracks or abrasions, and then it's trapped against the metal, with no easy way to inspect for corrosion.

    It's really sad to see this problem reoccurring. After the recall, I'd hoped Toyota made some significant improvements to their frame process to address the problem. Guess not.
     
  17. Dec 19, 2012 at 1:59 PM
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    Obviously you missed the part about frame being two sheet metals sandwiched together. You can spray inside or outside all you want. Its rusting from in between two metals. So unless somebody has some great idea how to submerge frame for couple minutes in something all the spraying and coating only delays things but not realy solve anything. Still will rust if you are in environment that helps speed rusting.
    Edit: I also poored por-15 into mine hoping it will protect metal. Well it did not metal is rusting under the por-15.
     
  18. Dec 19, 2012 at 2:23 PM
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    I didn't miss anything. There are two similar "rust" threads going. I posted this in the other one in response to you there, and it addresses your "sandwich" comments.

    Pouring a treatment inside the frame seems like a poor method to address the problem, since it'll only make contact where gravity takes it.
     
  19. Dec 19, 2012 at 2:27 PM
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    I'd prefer nothing but sand or some other purely mechanical traction aid was used, with no chemicals at all. Snow removal, tire selection, and prudent driving should take care of the rest. I believe that's the way some countries improve driving conditions in the winter.
     
  20. Dec 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM
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    Too many idiots driving way too fast on bald tires and complaining that the road crews do not clean the roads fast enough for them..

    OP: Good luck with your truck. I was involved with the original buy back..my 99 taco frame rusted like yours.
     
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