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2007 Tacoma A/C Blinking Light

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by traybore, Jun 4, 2024.

  1. Jun 30, 2024 at 3:11 PM
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    lodihoseman

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    Do these tests and diagrams also work for a 2013 V6? I’m having similar issues. I’ve swapped relays, and tested the flow sensor, still looking for things to test. Thank you in advance

    Edit. My ac works sometimes, and other times i get the blinking light. Getting the blinker more frequently now. (Why i tested the flow sensor.) The flow sensor readings were bouncing all over the place with a magnet near the sensor but with the magnet touching the sensor the readings got stable and it seems like that sensor is ok. 2.4v - decrease with one side of my magnet, increased with the other. I don’t have a magnet that’s marked north and south so I’m assuming the sensor was reacting properly but not 100% confidence
     
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  2. Jun 30, 2024 at 4:00 PM
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    Wiring is slightly different on a 13 but the MG CLT Relay location and pinout is the same.

    Would take some testing to find out the cause but one quick test you could do is to swap the MG CLT Relay for a known good one, if that's not it then you have to test when the problem is occurring.

    What I would likely do if one of these came into the shop with your complaint is put a test light on the power wire to the A/C clutch and put an oscilloscope on the Lock Sensor wire and see what I lose when the problem occurs.
    If I kept power but the clutch kicks out then I have a bad clutch, if the clutch stays engaged but I lose the Lock Sensor signal then I probably have a bad lock sensor.
     

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  3. Jun 30, 2024 at 4:08 PM
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    Is Lock Sensor another term for the compressor pickup sensor? Part Number 88346-04010? Screwed to the side of the compressor with 1 screw?

    If so, since i couldn’t possibly test it in the way you described, maybe it’s time for me to throw this part at it and cross my fingers.

    Well, i could do the first test, but i don’t have access to an oscilloscope.

    Which is more likely to fail, the mag clutch? Or the sensor? Or is it a toss up?
     
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  4. Jun 30, 2024 at 5:05 PM
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    Yes.

    I hate throwing parts unless I can verify they are bad, both the clutch and Lock Sensor can and do fail. I have also seen the relays fail, the problem with intermittent issues is you need your test equipment connected when the problem occurs to effectively diagnose it.
    I guess the Lock Sensor and MG CLT Relay would be cheaper and easier to replace than the clutch but I'm not a fan of the parts cannon.

    I wish there was a better way to check the lock sensor signal but it's such a tiny signal that you can only see it on a scope.

    It will blink a 150mA test light dimly if I backprobe the wire behind the glovebox but I'm not sure if that's a valid test or not.

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  5. Jun 30, 2024 at 5:34 PM
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    Thank you for your help. I, too, hate the parts cannon, but at this point i feel like that’s where i am. My local Toyota shop is kind of a joke. I’ve had nothing but problems with them.

    Some days the a/c will work flawlessly, and then others it’s almost impossible to keep it running. Then there are days when we can keep it running for a few minutes at a time and when the light begins blinking turning it off then on will make it run for another few minutes. It does seem like it’s more likely to start blinking at higher engine rpms. That kind of wants to point me at the Lock sensor, but then possibly the amplifier. Although, sitting here thinking about it, a slipping mag clutch might trigger it as well?

    Shop rates here (for a lousy shop) are running around $150 an hour, so that makes shooting parts at it a little more appealing to me.

    If i was going to connect a test light to the clutch power, is that the short wire coming out of the lock sensor harness? Or is there a better place to hook to that circuit?

    i really appreciate all your help! As well as the wiring diagram!
     
  6. Jun 30, 2024 at 9:14 PM
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    Yea that's the sad part of the industry, it's really hard to find a good shop that doesn't do hack work and does actual diagnostics. It seems nowadays everyone just want's to make a buck and not many people take pride in their work anymore.


    I suppose the belt could be slipping, have you verified the tensioner is keeping it tight?

    I would be nice if there was a relay in the box that is the same as the MG CLT Relay, there's some with the same pinout but I believe the MG CLT Relay is diode suppressed to prevent voltage spikes where normal relays aren't.

    The A/C Amplifier almost never fails, I've only ever seen one that was bad.


    The Violet wire is the control wire going to the compressor clutch, the easiest place to backprobe it would be at connector EA1 Pin 3 (Violet) in the Engine Room Fuse Box.

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  7. Aug 10, 2024 at 9:15 AM
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    Hello nice to see how helpful community is. I have 2013 Tacoma that I performed all of the mentioned test. Passed all test.
    Pin 1 flashes until ac light starts blinking then turns off. Was wonder what I should try next.
     
  8. Aug 10, 2024 at 8:26 PM
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    Does the compressor engage momentarily until the light starts blinking or does it not come on at all?
     
  9. Aug 11, 2024 at 12:02 PM
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    Yes it does
     
  10. Aug 11, 2024 at 7:43 PM
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    Have you verified the rubber hasn't separated on the clutch?
     
  11. Aug 12, 2024 at 6:13 AM
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    Yes. I just replaced with a new compressor a couple weeks ago.
     
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