1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

2007 TRD vs. 2013 TRD

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by dragr1, Apr 12, 2013.

  1. Apr 18, 2013 at 8:39 AM
    #61
    OZ-T

    OZ-T Did you get your precious photos ?

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2009
    Member:
    #27584
    Messages:
    24,816
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Peter North
    British Columbia
    Vehicle:
    Mag Grey 09 Trd Sport DCLB 4x4
    OME 885x , OME shocks and Dakars , Wheelers SuperBumps front and rear , 275/70/17 Hankook ATm , OEM bed mat , Weathertech digifit floor liners , Weathertech in-channel vents , headache rack , Leer 100RCC commercial canopy , TRD bedside decals removed , Devil Horns by Andres , HomerTaco Satoshi
    I am not a fan of VSC in low traction ( snow ) conditions

    I guess I am lucky to have learned how to drive in snow without it
     
  2. Apr 18, 2013 at 2:56 PM
    #62
    DoorDing

    DoorDing Someone was there .

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2012
    Member:
    #86445
    Messages:
    25,926
    Gender:
    Male
    bee keeper
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCSB Off-Road 4WD
    Yes, you are.

    I look at it this way. For on road driving, learning to drive without modern traction aids develops the skills needed to safely operate a vehicle fully under human control. If you drive like that with aids active, any intervention the aids take will usually be minimal. That philosophy is predicated on the aids functioning beneficially. Yes, I know. ABS sucks in snow.

    Off road (or other low traction situations), the behavior of A-TRAC and the like can't be replicated manually (braking wheels independently), so there's no human controlled analog.
     
  3. Apr 18, 2013 at 2:58 PM
    #63
    OZ-T

    OZ-T Did you get your precious photos ?

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2009
    Member:
    #27584
    Messages:
    24,816
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Peter North
    British Columbia
    Vehicle:
    Mag Grey 09 Trd Sport DCLB 4x4
    OME 885x , OME shocks and Dakars , Wheelers SuperBumps front and rear , 275/70/17 Hankook ATm , OEM bed mat , Weathertech digifit floor liners , Weathertech in-channel vents , headache rack , Leer 100RCC commercial canopy , TRD bedside decals removed , Devil Horns by Andres , HomerTaco Satoshi
    Once again , to summarize

    I wasn't talking about ATRAC , I don't care about ATRAC
     
  4. Apr 18, 2013 at 3:15 PM
    #64
    DoorDing

    DoorDing Someone was there .

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2012
    Member:
    #86445
    Messages:
    25,926
    Gender:
    Male
    bee keeper
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCSB Off-Road 4WD
    To summarize, I was speaking generally.
     
  5. Apr 18, 2013 at 3:43 PM
    #65
    moondeath

    moondeath Plenty of slaves for my robot colony?

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2011
    Member:
    #48948
    Messages:
    3,535
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Pa, Carlisle
    Vehicle:
    6th Gen 2013 TRD Sport DCLB 4x4
    Grill Thin Lip (Custom Car Grills Mod), Wheels & Tires, Bilstein 5100 1.75" in Front and 1" in Rear, Access Tonneau Cover, Pop & Lock Tailgate Electronic Lock PL8521
    I think there is a lot of confusion going on here. ATRAC is different from TRAC. ATRAC only comes on when you push the button and are in 4lo. It doesn't cut power, it gives LSD like effects all around. You can also turn on your locker at the same time if you please. TRAC in 4lo is OFF.
     
  6. Apr 18, 2013 at 3:56 PM
    #66
    DoorDing

    DoorDing Someone was there .

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2012
    Member:
    #86445
    Messages:
    25,926
    Gender:
    Male
    bee keeper
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCSB Off-Road 4WD
    It's been stated several times that the traction aids can be turned off.

    It's also been stated several times that if the OP wants a factory rear locker, the only option is the Off-Road package, which includes several traction aids that can be turned off.
     
  7. Apr 18, 2013 at 4:47 PM
    #67
    MudFlap

    MudFlap Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2011
    Member:
    #59794
    Messages:
    388
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tim
    Memphis (north mississippi)
    Vehicle:
    2012 TRD Off Road
    Myself, having a 2012 TRD Off Road, I believe in the ability of ATRAC. I do understand that this is a bone stock factory truck and ATRAC is not the best thing to happen to traction. But IMO, ATRAC is worth having and using when in a tight spot. Here is another video demonstrating ATRAC at work, very good example at 1:15 here.......

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKl30rPjsG0
     
  8. Apr 30, 2013 at 4:08 PM
    #68
    joeyd27

    joeyd27 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2013
    Member:
    #100133
    Messages:
    14
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2013 TRD OR
    I printed out your 9 drive modes and hit the trails today. Your right 4Hi seems different. In 4Hi going slow, I hit the VSC button and the TRAC OFF light comes on. If I hold the button for 3+ seconds then the TRAC OFF and VSC OFF lights come on.
     
  9. May 1, 2013 at 5:05 AM
    #69
    David K

    David K Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2009
    Member:
    #18969
    Messages:
    9,053
    Gender:
    Male
    San Marcos, Alta California
    Vehicle:
    2010 4WD Off Road DC
    Differential Breather Mod Light Bar: 2 Hella 4000 HID, 1 Cibie Halogen. Bilstein 5100s Ride Rite Air Bags
    Thanks, so what we would like to know is 4WD TRAC OFF = AUTO LSD, as it is in 2WD? Can you test on a hill climb the difference between TRAC ON and TRAC OFF. I can climb almost as easy/far in H4 with TRAC as L4. L4 is just less stressful on the truck, as you can crawl slow (A-TRAC on, naturally).

    REVIEW:
    In the 2009-2011 Tacomas, in H4 (4Hi) it is normally in traction control mode, but without engine regulation (same as AUTO LSD in H2)... and to help the confusion, Toyota called this TRAC (as they do with the 2WD TRAC which has regulation). 2009-2011 models in H4 have a choice of TRAC (no regulation) and VSC OFF (no traction control or VSC)... two modes.

    2012+ (in H4) has three modes in H4: TRAC (regulation?), TRAC OFF (no regulation?), and VSC OFF (no TRAC or VSC).

    Thanks for your help!:)
     
To Top