1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

2010 exhaust manifold...LT Headers?

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by 375taco, Jun 29, 2010.

  1. 375taco

    375taco [OP] controlled pair?

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2009
    Member:
    #22182
    Messages:
    485
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD Sport 4x4 DC SB
    OME lift w/ 1" spacer. Built Right UCA's. Tinted all the way around. De-badged. Trimming up front
    I read somewhere they changed up the 2010 exhaust manifold and you really dont need headers....I dont know if that is true I haven't researched it that much and I dont really remember where I read that...so that being said I have a 4.0L and I was wondering with out a big debate because I know everyone has their own preferance should I go Y-Pipe to exhaust or full headers,y-pipe,exhaust...Is it worth the money?
     
  2. j1999t

    j1999t Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Member:
    #17165
    Messages:
    813
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Justin
    Northern Colorado
    Vehicle:
    traded it in
    i have a 2010 (see profile) and i plan to do every thing i can to pull the most power out of it... once i can afford it lol, might be 5 years lol
     
  3. Ahshiet

    Ahshiet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Member:
    #22303
    Messages:
    5,232
    Gender:
    Male
    Maui,Hawaii
    Vehicle:
    09 MG Sport DC 4x4
    Set #1 16x10 ion alloy wheel 31x12.5 super swampers Set#2 17x9 KMC Diesel black 305/65/17 M/T ATZ baja Set#3 TRD offroad wheels painted wrinkle black with H/T tire 275/70/16 Set#4 Weld racing 16x12 Typhoon with 305/70/16 BF KO tires Set#5 Weld racing 16.5x12 36x16 fun country Set#6 TRD rugged edition wheels 305/75/16 baja claws Set#7 16x10 procomp steel "beadlooks" 33x12.50 TSL Boggers Spider track spacers in front Wet Okole black seat covers fronts with pockets,back and armrest HIDs high Lexus projector fogs h11 hid 3500k Toyota bed mat black trd exhaust Fujita intake black Xrunner badges carbon fiber door sills Alpine double din 2 8" bazookas (modded) 2 Alpine type-r 8's in tubes Rockford fosgate 1500w silverstar blinker bulbs front and back Led lic plate bulbs Led dome light Led map lights Black eBay headlights VHT night shade tails and 3rd brake light Custom made rear fog lights(next to 3rd brake light) Sticker bombed bed walls and pass. A-pill
    I know the 05 and 09 have diff exhaust mani's the 05 looks like a straight pipe aka log style that runs along the head but the 09 is beefer looking manifold that looks like it has better flow but what do I know lol
     
  4. TRDguyKC

    TRDguyKC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Member:
    #9316
    Messages:
    1,008
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kris
    Glendale, AZ
    Lets see pics of it! i didnt know they changed the manifold between years. The DT LT's will still yield you more power than any stock unit.
     
  5. blackhawke88

    blackhawke88 wo ai ni bao bei ^_^

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2009
    Member:
    #12478
    Messages:
    16,858
    Gender:
    Male
    SGV, CA
    Vehicle:
    07 TRD Offroad
    :popcorn: ps...go headers before going y-pipe
     
  6. roxspin72

    roxspin72 Enjoying my addiction

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2008
    Member:
    #4659
    Messages:
    1,831
    Gender:
    Male
    NC
    Vehicle:
    Speedway Blue, TRD, 4X4,
    Oh Yeah!!!
    +1

    Also, no matter whether it's 2005, or 2010, you can not tell me that headers are not needed. OEM Manifolds are no where near designed for maximum HP. Plus, if you are going for DTLT Headers the main benefit there is removing the front Cats. The 2010 Manifold still has Cats, so of course adding a set of Long Tubes will gain you some HP.

    Get the Headers, and a good highflow exhaust. You will be happy with the gains. If you want a really loud truck add the Y-pipe:cool:

    enjoy.
     
  7. 375taco

    375taco [OP] controlled pair?

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2009
    Member:
    #22182
    Messages:
    485
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD Sport 4x4 DC SB
    OME lift w/ 1" spacer. Built Right UCA's. Tinted all the way around. De-badged. Trimming up front
    thanks for the help! If i go DTLT Headers I think I will get the Doug thorley set up with the pipe bomb on it....I think thats what its called? I dont want it really loud. Just a nice sound...beefy
     
  8. RELLIM

    RELLIM Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2009
    Member:
    #26113
    Messages:
    195
    Gender:
    Male
    IOWA CITY IA
    Vehicle:
    2010 ACC CAB 4X4 V6 SR5 TRD
    Scan Gauge II, AFE air filter, charcoal intake filter delete Fitch Fuel Catalyst, Alpine iDA-X303, AMS OIL (ENGINE) Bilstein 5100 RHA series
    I was wondering if the 2010 exhaust manifold was stainless steel or cast iron?
     
  9. RenoTacoma

    RenoTacoma Petrol head

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2010
    Member:
    #38185
    Messages:
    869
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Sloan
    Reno, nevada
    Vehicle:
    09 Base 4x4 Tacoma
    Mid-travel soon
    Im pretty sure my 09 is a steel of some sort but not cast metal
     
  10. Torspd

    Torspd Tor-nication

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2009
    Member:
    #22958
    Messages:
    5,381
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tor
    Houston
    Vehicle:
    MMVI 4.4L 4x4 Access Cab
    Torspd Custom Turbo kit [] Borg Warner 9180EFR Turbo [] ProEFI Pro128 EMS [] TiAL Q BOV [] TiAL V44 Wastegate @ 15psi [] CP Pistons [] CP Carrillo Rods [] ARP Head studs [] ARP Main Studs [] ARP Header - Head Studs [] Ported Heads w/ 1mm oversized valves intake/exhaust [] Brian Crower Forged Stroker Crank [] Darton M.I.D. Sleeved Block [] Kelford Camshafts [] Torspd 170* T-stat mod [] APR Large Fuel Rail [] Aeromotive Stealth 340 LPH Fuel Pump [] FueLab FPR [] APR T56 Conversion Kit [] KP RACING Built T56 [] McLeod Racing Custom Twin Disk Clutch [] One Piece Aluminum Driveshaft [] MGW Shifter [] Custom lowering kit [] Ohlins Front Coilovers [] QA1rear shocks [] Custom Ron Davis Radiator [] Dual SPAL Electric Fans []
    The '09 + is something like stamped steel. They have a design that is two piece welded together. Runners that curve in the direction of flow, to direct the exhaust flow more efficiently.

    The '05-'08 have a round tube welded to a flange that has three holes drilled into it, which is the header. Simplest header design.

    If you are an N/A owner between the years of '05-'08 and still have the factory headers on, then swapping to the '09+ will make the driver immediately notice an increase in power.
     
  11. RELLIM

    RELLIM Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2009
    Member:
    #26113
    Messages:
    195
    Gender:
    Male
    IOWA CITY IA
    Vehicle:
    2010 ACC CAB 4X4 V6 SR5 TRD
    Scan Gauge II, AFE air filter, charcoal intake filter delete Fitch Fuel Catalyst, Alpine iDA-X303, AMS OIL (ENGINE) Bilstein 5100 RHA series
    I was thinking of using a manifold wrap(header wrap) to increase scavenging effect.
    I read somewhere that wrapping a cast iron manifold could be dangerous, it may crack it.
     
  12. whippersnapper02

    whippersnapper02 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2009
    Member:
    #27905
    Messages:
    35,268
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Christian
    Yorba Linda, CA
    Vehicle:
    10 MGM TRD OR 4wd Auto DCSB
    Banks Monster Exhaust, Pop n Lock tailgate lock, Hook-Ups tie down brackets, USA Spec Ipod adaptor, WO seat covers, color matched grill with Grillcraft insert, Tuffy locking bed box
    I would not wrap the exhaust manifold on a street car.
     
  13. Torspd

    Torspd Tor-nication

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2009
    Member:
    #22958
    Messages:
    5,381
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tor
    Houston
    Vehicle:
    MMVI 4.4L 4x4 Access Cab
    Torspd Custom Turbo kit [] Borg Warner 9180EFR Turbo [] ProEFI Pro128 EMS [] TiAL Q BOV [] TiAL V44 Wastegate @ 15psi [] CP Pistons [] CP Carrillo Rods [] ARP Head studs [] ARP Main Studs [] ARP Header - Head Studs [] Ported Heads w/ 1mm oversized valves intake/exhaust [] Brian Crower Forged Stroker Crank [] Darton M.I.D. Sleeved Block [] Kelford Camshafts [] Torspd 170* T-stat mod [] APR Large Fuel Rail [] Aeromotive Stealth 340 LPH Fuel Pump [] FueLab FPR [] APR T56 Conversion Kit [] KP RACING Built T56 [] McLeod Racing Custom Twin Disk Clutch [] One Piece Aluminum Driveshaft [] MGW Shifter [] Custom lowering kit [] Ohlins Front Coilovers [] QA1rear shocks [] Custom Ron Davis Radiator [] Dual SPAL Electric Fans []
    Care to elaborate why not?
     
  14. whippersnapper02

    whippersnapper02 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2009
    Member:
    #27905
    Messages:
    35,268
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Christian
    Yorba Linda, CA
    Vehicle:
    10 MGM TRD OR 4wd Auto DCSB
    Banks Monster Exhaust, Pop n Lock tailgate lock, Hook-Ups tie down brackets, USA Spec Ipod adaptor, WO seat covers, color matched grill with Grillcraft insert, Tuffy locking bed box
    What's the benefit on the street from a stock NA engine with stock exhaust manifolds?
     
  15. Torspd

    Torspd Tor-nication

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2009
    Member:
    #22958
    Messages:
    5,381
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tor
    Houston
    Vehicle:
    MMVI 4.4L 4x4 Access Cab
    Torspd Custom Turbo kit [] Borg Warner 9180EFR Turbo [] ProEFI Pro128 EMS [] TiAL Q BOV [] TiAL V44 Wastegate @ 15psi [] CP Pistons [] CP Carrillo Rods [] ARP Head studs [] ARP Main Studs [] ARP Header - Head Studs [] Ported Heads w/ 1mm oversized valves intake/exhaust [] Brian Crower Forged Stroker Crank [] Darton M.I.D. Sleeved Block [] Kelford Camshafts [] Torspd 170* T-stat mod [] APR Large Fuel Rail [] Aeromotive Stealth 340 LPH Fuel Pump [] FueLab FPR [] APR T56 Conversion Kit [] KP RACING Built T56 [] McLeod Racing Custom Twin Disk Clutch [] One Piece Aluminum Driveshaft [] MGW Shifter [] Custom lowering kit [] Ohlins Front Coilovers [] QA1rear shocks [] Custom Ron Davis Radiator [] Dual SPAL Electric Fans []
    You are correct about wrapping the stock headers. There really isn't a way to get a wrap on them, until after they merge, just before the catalytic converter. Simply because there aren't individual primary tubes, like on the aftermarket headers.

    Which is what i thought the question refered to. On the, JBA or Doug Thorley headers, it is beneficial. One simplest reason is because you can wrap them completely.

    The JBA headers are made out of 409 mild steel. The Doug Thorley headers are now made out of 304 stainless steel. Much better than the 409, in strength as well as corrosion/weather resistance. I.E. preventing rust.

    People say you shouldn't wrap the headers because the wrap has the potential to hold moisture. On a lot of aftermarket headers for a variety of vehicles, they are made from 409 mild steel, and the wrap has helped aid in earlier rust build up.

    The solution. Buy better headers. Made from 304 stainless steel. Wrap them, and spray them down with silicone, to create a water barrier. Once wrapped, you will now get better performance because your engine bay is now cooler, making your motor run cooler.
     
  16. B.Radd.KO

    B.Radd.KO Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2012
    Member:
    #70336
    Messages:
    46
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Blanalin
    Prince George, B.C.
    Vehicle:
    2011 Tacoma DC TRD Std.
    HID Fog/Hi/Low 3000W RMS Stereo TRD Quickshifter TRD Supercharger TRD Exhaust JBA Headers
    Thanks for the tip. I havent actually taken my stock headers off my 1GR-FE but i read somewhere that there is two layers to it.

    Its not easy to explain, but the outer layer is supposedly like a heat sheild. According to the information i found there is an air gap between this heat shield and the actual exhaust pipe, making it hard to tell the actual diameter of the manifold by simply looking at it.

    Im not saying the 09+ manifold isn't bigger than the 05-08, and im not saying this information is gospel because i haven't seen it for myself, I was hoping someone might be able to confirm or refute this information (Refute? Man now im getting into words i don't understand.... SHIT!)
     
  17. Torspd

    Torspd Tor-nication

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2009
    Member:
    #22958
    Messages:
    5,381
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tor
    Houston
    Vehicle:
    MMVI 4.4L 4x4 Access Cab
    Torspd Custom Turbo kit [] Borg Warner 9180EFR Turbo [] ProEFI Pro128 EMS [] TiAL Q BOV [] TiAL V44 Wastegate @ 15psi [] CP Pistons [] CP Carrillo Rods [] ARP Head studs [] ARP Main Studs [] ARP Header - Head Studs [] Ported Heads w/ 1mm oversized valves intake/exhaust [] Brian Crower Forged Stroker Crank [] Darton M.I.D. Sleeved Block [] Kelford Camshafts [] Torspd 170* T-stat mod [] APR Large Fuel Rail [] Aeromotive Stealth 340 LPH Fuel Pump [] FueLab FPR [] APR T56 Conversion Kit [] KP RACING Built T56 [] McLeod Racing Custom Twin Disk Clutch [] One Piece Aluminum Driveshaft [] MGW Shifter [] Custom lowering kit [] Ohlins Front Coilovers [] QA1rear shocks [] Custom Ron Davis Radiator [] Dual SPAL Electric Fans []
    You are correct. The '09+ headers have a swept back design. Obviously to aid in efficient exhaust flow. Clear improvement over the prior design, which was effectively a log with three holes into, and one out.
     
  18. RELLIM

    RELLIM Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2009
    Member:
    #26113
    Messages:
    195
    Gender:
    Male
    IOWA CITY IA
    Vehicle:
    2010 ACC CAB 4X4 V6 SR5 TRD
    Scan Gauge II, AFE air filter, charcoal intake filter delete Fitch Fuel Catalyst, Alpine iDA-X303, AMS OIL (ENGINE) Bilstein 5100 RHA series
    Im looking for away to increase the flow of exhaust with out increasing pipe size.
    There are pipe wraps different than a wrap. The idea here is to increase fuel mileage.

    But this looks to be more of a ass pain to me.
     
  19. whippersnapper02

    whippersnapper02 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2009
    Member:
    #27905
    Messages:
    35,268
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Christian
    Yorba Linda, CA
    Vehicle:
    10 MGM TRD OR 4wd Auto DCSB
    Banks Monster Exhaust, Pop n Lock tailgate lock, Hook-Ups tie down brackets, USA Spec Ipod adaptor, WO seat covers, color matched grill with Grillcraft insert, Tuffy locking bed box
    You aren't going to increase mpg by anything you will notice with boltons or in this case with wrapons.
     
  20. Torspd

    Torspd Tor-nication

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2009
    Member:
    #22958
    Messages:
    5,381
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tor
    Houston
    Vehicle:
    MMVI 4.4L 4x4 Access Cab
    Torspd Custom Turbo kit [] Borg Warner 9180EFR Turbo [] ProEFI Pro128 EMS [] TiAL Q BOV [] TiAL V44 Wastegate @ 15psi [] CP Pistons [] CP Carrillo Rods [] ARP Head studs [] ARP Main Studs [] ARP Header - Head Studs [] Ported Heads w/ 1mm oversized valves intake/exhaust [] Brian Crower Forged Stroker Crank [] Darton M.I.D. Sleeved Block [] Kelford Camshafts [] Torspd 170* T-stat mod [] APR Large Fuel Rail [] Aeromotive Stealth 340 LPH Fuel Pump [] FueLab FPR [] APR T56 Conversion Kit [] KP RACING Built T56 [] McLeod Racing Custom Twin Disk Clutch [] One Piece Aluminum Driveshaft [] MGW Shifter [] Custom lowering kit [] Ohlins Front Coilovers [] QA1rear shocks [] Custom Ron Davis Radiator [] Dual SPAL Electric Fans []
    To increase exhaust flow without changing diameters, would require this. Looking for any restrictions in the exhaust. Such as kink bends, reductions in diameter, and cats. You would have to replace those with mandrel bends, no reductions, and remove cats.
     
To Top