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2011 1GR-FE oil question

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by matts11, Jul 27, 2011.

  1. Jul 27, 2011 at 7:15 PM
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    matts11

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    Is anyone else confused about what oil Toyota is recommeding be used in 2011 Tacomas with the 1GR-FE? I know the 2.7L and all the dual VVT-i V6 engines (Tundra, FJ, 4Runner) call for the 0W-20 full syn stuff. The manual and cap on mine says use 5W-30--presumably conventional (not trying to start a syn vs conventional thread). The reason I am confused is that Toyotas website says 2011 Tacomas use full synthetic oil. http://www.toyota.com/owners/parts-service/synthetic-oil/ . It does not differentiate between the 2.7L and 4.0L. I just want to know what Toyota fills them with as I intend to do the same--not what I "could" use. Maybe someone has gotten a UOA done on the FF oil. This question has been discussed a bit but no one seems to get a conclusive answer. Has anyone with a 2011 V6 had an oil change done at a dealer--if so what did they use?
     
  2. Jul 27, 2011 at 7:17 PM
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    My manual for an 08 states 5-20W as well as on the cap.
     
  3. Jul 27, 2011 at 7:18 PM
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    When I got my truck in 05, it was filled with 5w-30.

    I read somewhere on here, they started filling the newer models up with syn 0w-20 out of the factory...
     
  4. Jul 27, 2011 at 7:24 PM
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  5. Jul 27, 2011 at 7:26 PM
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    Mostly stock for now, I have added a cb radio, various cheap mods and I plan on adding aftermarket wheels and other items in the future.
    I've been told they use Mobil "clean" oil that is part synthetic, out of the factory. But it has been discontinued.

    5W-30 can be a conventional oil or a synthetic, 5W-30 has nothing to do with what type of oil it is, but with viscosity gradings or how thick it is.

    Go with what the manual says to go with, so in other words use 5w-30. You can go either way, conventional "dino" oil, or modern synthetic oil. Both will do the job just fine, just make sure to use a good filter like a Toyota filter or Wix, mobil 1 filter, etc.

    Hope that helps.
     
  6. Jul 27, 2011 at 7:31 PM
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    ummm yeah
    i run 0w-30 amsoil.....


    fuck'em.
     
  7. Jul 27, 2011 at 7:31 PM
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    don't let this get outta hand now.....

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  8. Jul 27, 2011 at 7:36 PM
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    The 2011 2.7 uses 0w20, the 4.0 uses 5w30. All 2011 model year gasoline engines must use an oil that meets the new GF5 oil standard. Mobil super 5000 (the replacement for Mobil clean 5000) and Mobil 1 synthetic as well as many other oils on the market meet the new standard. Just look for the GF5 rating on the bottle in the correct viscosity and you will be fine.
     
  9. Jul 27, 2011 at 8:03 PM
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    Guys, thanks for the replies. Again, I am not trying to start an "oil" thread, I just want to know what Toyota puts in the engine from the factory. My guess is conventional 5W-30. But, if Toyota is filling these with 0W20 syn like seemingly every other engine they make I want to use that instead....I wish their website was not so damn confusing...i.e...if only the 4 cylinder uses the 0W-20 why would they not say so? Not very friendly to DIY ers.
     
  10. Jul 28, 2011 at 4:14 AM
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    FWIW, I was told by a dealer tech that Toyota fills the 4.0's with semi synthetic from the factory. Don't know if he really knew or was BS'ing me though.
     
  11. Jul 28, 2011 at 5:26 AM
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    Did you truck come with an Owner's manual? I'd put in whatever the manual says.


    My 2007 manual says 5w-30 and I swapped to full synthetic 5w-30.
     
  12. Jul 28, 2011 at 6:06 AM
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    Everybody's confused... you're not alone. Even Toyota. The manual and oil cap say one thing, the website another. For older Tacoma's, like mine, it says something else again in a TSB that changed 5w30 (in manual) to 5w20, GF5.

    So, with all the conflicting info I think it's safe to say you have latitude to use 0w20, 5w20 or 5w30 (GF5) to maintain warranty coverage... and Toyota could fill it with either of same. And probably does, at various times depending on various things (for instance: a truck delivered to Alaska gets 0w20, one delivered to Texas gets 5w20.)

    But in general, and IMHO, it should be 0w20 to ensure they have the same that they would have used for EPA fuel economy certification tests since it's obviously gonna give the best numbers. But otherwise I don't think anybody has sufficient information to tell you definitively what they actually fill it with for new vehicle delivery. I, for one, wouldn't believe anything a tech or salesman at the dealership tells me unless they show it to me in writing from the factory.

    I believe you'll find that 0w20 GF5, API SN, oil is available only as fully synthetic oil, so that is the most likely oil they fill it with from the factory.
     
  13. Jul 28, 2011 at 8:29 AM
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    I agree with what you are saying, but I still find it hard to believe that a company as big as Toyota would put an oil fill cap on that says use 5W-30 as well as put it in the owners manual if they were filling it with 0W-20. I could see this with a small company. It seems like the only reason to use the 0W-20 is for fuel efficiency reasons so I guess I am just going to stick with Mobil 1 5W-30. FWIW, I sent Toyota an email about this--we will see if they respond. I stopped by a dealer today and the tech said they put in 5W-30. This is not to say it is what Toyota intends or fills with from the factory, but at least I know what I would get if I took it to a dealer...

    My conclusion is that if it weren't for the damn internet no one would question what is on the cap and in the manual so I guess I should just pretend it is 1985.
     
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    Toyota may fil it with 0w-20 from the factory for the break in period. If the cap and the manual says to use 5w-30, and that's what the Toyota tech would put in if you took it to them for an oil change, I think you're overthinking this and making it more complicated than it needs to be...
     
  15. Jul 28, 2011 at 8:42 AM
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    I really wouldn't let it bother ya. For warranty purposes and engine longevity it doesn't matter a hill of beans whether you use 0w20, 5w20 or 5w30. Toyota genuinely doesn't care which you use.

    You should instead look at it's advantages: you have all the latitude to use whichever makes sense for your driving. 5w30 when towing heavy through the desert, 0w20 when driving light in the snow, 5w20 for whatever fits your fancy. As long as it's GF5, no matter what happens you can look 'em in the eye and say you're using what's recommended. I can't see any reason to stress over it much.

    A lot of other vehicle owners don't have that kind of latitude and stress at oil change making sure the monkeys put the right stuff in... and then worry again on long trips that the too-light oil used to meet EPA will hold up. It will, of course, but people worry anyway.

    Just like they worry about comparing oil caps to manuals to web sites. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Jul 28, 2011 at 10:24 AM
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    Manual for my 2010 2.7 indicates 5w-20, with an option to use 0w-20 for better fuel milage. I switched to Pennzoil Platinum syn 5w-20 and have been very happy, though I only have 20k miles so far.
     
  18. Jul 28, 2011 at 12:26 PM
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    It's probably safer to go with whats on the engine than whats in a paper manual. I called my local dealer to check since I had the same question and they follow whats on the engine when there is a discrepancy.

    From my own experience, I'm working on a software project right now for a large vehicle suppplier and the whole tech doc authoring and publishing process is quite complicated. The group that authors manuals is different than the group that does the engineering. Errors in manuals can happen ...
     
  19. Jul 29, 2011 at 8:16 AM
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    Guys,
    I got a response from Toyota regarding my inquiry about this--here it is:

    We are sorry for any confusion regarding the recommend oil for your 2011 Tacoma.
    Toyota recommends using 5W-30 (conventional oil) in the 2011 Tacoma V6. If you choose to use 5W-30 synthetic oil, we would still recommend changing your oil every 5,000 miles or 6 months which ever occurs first.
    To be clear we do not recommend the use of 0W-20 or any other synthetic oil or weight.
    We hope our response clarifies this matter.
    If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us via email by using the following link, http://www.toyota.com/help/contactus.html, or by calling 800-331-4331. We are available from 5 AM to 6 PM, Pacific Time, Monday through Friday and from 7 AM to 4 PM on Saturday.
    Sincerely,
    Anita Mouton
    Toyota Customer Experience
     
  20. Jul 29, 2011 at 9:19 AM
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    That is AWESOME... you should REALLY send them this:

    http://www.toyota.com/owners/parts-service/synthetic-oil/#

    And tell them to look at TSB EG018-06.

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