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2012 Formula 1 Season Paddock

Discussion in 'Sports, Hobbies & Interests' started by OZ-T, Feb 3, 2012.

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  1. Feb 15, 2012 at 9:34 PM
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    DRS - Draft Reduction System

    You like the KERS ?
     
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  2. Feb 15, 2012 at 9:35 PM
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    Gotcha.

    Excuse the noob questions. What are the limiting factors F1 puts on the cars? Do they restrict them at all ie: restrictor plate Nascar. Is it expected than any car can win on any day or are the lower end teams just not competitive?
     
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  3. Feb 15, 2012 at 9:36 PM
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    I was reading up on it during the race a bit, amazing stuff.
     
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  4. Feb 15, 2012 at 9:38 PM
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    No restrictor plates .

    Unlike in NASCAR , where top speed is all there is , in F1 , the cars are constantly braking , then accelerating back up to speed , so the teams set up the car as a compromise between all out speed and grip / acceleration through and off the corners .
     
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  5. Feb 15, 2012 at 10:08 PM
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  6. Feb 16, 2012 at 9:15 AM
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    What about when Webber and Vettal toke each other out 2 summers ago? And the times Hamilton and Jenson have almost taken each other out? Its more important for the constructors to have both driver finish every race in the top 5 so they get the constructors cup. When drivers take each other out the constructors loose points.
     
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  7. Feb 16, 2012 at 9:24 AM
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    I guess you could say the size of the engine is a restriction. Here is some engine differences from a web site.




    The Formula One engine is a purpose-built, pure race engine, in a 90 degree V8 configuration, with 2.4 liters (146.4 cubic inches) displacement. It weighs at a minimum of 209 lbs.

    > The NASCAR Cup engine is also a V8, supposedly production-based, and restricted to 5.86 liter (358 cubic-inch) displacement. It weighs in at approximately 575 lbs.

    > The Formula One engine is designed to go roughly 840 miles.

    > The NASCAR Cup engine is designed to go 800 miles, more or less.

    > The Formula One engine puts out about 755 bhp, at upwards of 20,000 rpm.

    > The NASCAR Cup engine puts out around 820 bhp at a much lower 9000 rpm.

    > The Formula One engine is a DOHC design, with four-valve-per-cylinder layout and has finger-followers and pneumatic valvesprings. The ignition and fuel injection systems are controlled by a sophisticated engine-management digital computer system.

    > The NASCAR Cup engine has two valves per cylinder using steel helical valvesprings, a single four barrel carburetor based on a specified Holley model and a single, distributor-controlled ignition.

    This info came from: http://blogs.insideline.com/straigh...ines-not-as-far-apart-as-you-might-think.html
     
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  8. Feb 16, 2012 at 9:27 AM
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    Those are specs , not restrictions like restrictor plates in NASCAR , where a restriction is added to the spec engine .
     
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  9. Feb 16, 2012 at 9:29 AM
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    Exactly

    Keep in mind , the teams' portion of the profits from the F1 season is in part tied to their finishing position in the Constructor's Championship
     
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  10. Feb 16, 2012 at 1:08 PM
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    This part needs updating. NASCAR has switched to EFI this season.

    http://www.jayski.com/pr/EFIFastFacts.pdf

    Single throttle body with McLaren (yes the same Mclaren) built ECU. Also eight injectors and eight coils. So I guess they're getting more similar. It's a shame that NASCAR isn't seizing on the PR possibilities with this change. It's all Danica, Danica, Danica, blah blah blah. Another reason why my interest is down this year.
     
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  11. Feb 16, 2012 at 1:08 PM
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    NASCAR is switching over to EFI engines

    The only reason they have the resticter plates is to keep speeds down at the super speedways like Talledega and Daytona. A brick going around a 2.5 mile track at 220+ mph isn't the greatest thing.
     
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  12. Feb 16, 2012 at 1:09 PM
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    Now I get it. Sometimes hard for me to think "big picture" when it comes to racing.
     
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  13. Feb 16, 2012 at 1:11 PM
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    Enough NASCAR , this is an F1 thread
     
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  14. Feb 16, 2012 at 1:16 PM
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    [southern accent]
    Hey, man, jus tryin ta git ya sum learnin since ya got me lookin at werds about tha silly furriners n thar go karts woo hoo
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  15. Feb 16, 2012 at 1:20 PM
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    It's all good , I'm just kidding anyway ( kinda )

    I like discussing pretty much all kinds of auto racing
     
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  16. Feb 16, 2012 at 1:29 PM
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    I've been getting my fix burning up youtube watching old races from the 70s to the early 90s. F1, NASCAR, SCCA, IMSA, CanAm.
     
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    Nice
     
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    Just started the Hungarian Grand Prix from last year. Wife and kids out of the house for the night ... let the drinking and racing begin.
     
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