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2012 occasional light vibe at slow speed stopping

Discussion in '5 Lug' started by hammerman, Mar 8, 2012.

  1. Mar 8, 2012 at 3:07 PM
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    anyone expieriencing a slight vibration at low speed as you slow to near stop speed?i only get it a couple times a week.everything seems fine as far as braking. dealer never heard of it but would schedule an appointment.well it only does it occasionally so that would be useless. salesman had an answer and he said might be all the safety functions as far as antilock anti skid etc.like it might be just that way but service guy went to back to talk to mechanic and they had no knowledge of this happening.did since new and now have 5000 miles.anyone?
     
  2. Mar 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM
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    I had that. The cause was cupping tires on my truck.
     
  3. Mar 8, 2012 at 6:07 PM
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    My '12 with auto has done the same thing only 3 times in the last 5,400 miles. Best I can describe is slowly slowing down from about 25 mph to a near stop, and it seems like the trans doesn't downshift into first, but rather stays in second and lugs causing the vibration? Seems like my normal driving around and stopping doesn't cause it... only the slower stops in neighborhoods at lower speeds. Curious if you find out anything, and hope this helps.
     
  4. Mar 9, 2012 at 8:10 AM
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    yours sounds just like mine other than i don't know about the downshift part.but mine is exactly as you describe 25 or less a slowing down to stop light and it does not do it to complete stop but more like from 25 to 5 to 10 mph.i get it a few times a week.you and i have same thing i am sure.
     
  5. Mar 9, 2012 at 4:17 PM
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    Telephoned Larry Miller Toyota Service Dept in Peoria, AZ and they have not heard of the problem, nor do they have a TSB from Toyota. I was told that if a TSB comes out, it sounds like a software update and just a computer flash would fix the problem. I guess we'll stay tuned for more info at this point.
     
  6. Mar 10, 2012 at 9:24 AM
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    thank you for your time and contact.it does seem like in the old days when had sticks if you left it in too high gear way too long and did not push in clutch would get jumping or vibration.i just never thought of anything like this being auto.nothing radical more like one tenth the feel of a rumble strip .thanks again for checking with your toyota contact and there looking into it.
     
  7. Mar 13, 2012 at 12:51 AM
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    I have a 2011 doing this. Gotta make an appt with dealer. It feels like its coming from the rear end. Worse when going down a hill too.

    edit: i dont thinks its trans as ive done this in neutral, even tried it with the truck off in neutral. still does it.
     
  8. Mar 13, 2012 at 8:15 AM
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    streaker, i was wondering if yours is also only at the low speed slowing and quits before the stop.
     
  9. Mar 13, 2012 at 8:40 AM
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    Started getting this around 15,000 on my 2011. In my case it’s probably the crapy factory rotors, I anticipate they are slightly warped. Anytime I've had this issue in the past with other vehicles I've owned, the minute I got rid of the crapy factory rotors the vibes went away. Its real bad in my truck now and it got a lot worse the last time I had my 400 in the bed on my way to go riding. I'm guessing I got those brakes a bit too hot braking at high speeds; I was in a hurry to get there.

    I've also pulled my single axel trailer a few times over the course of the year which also added to the problem.

    Just throwing this out there, but it may just be the rotors. Can always swap them out for cheapies (I usually don't resurface) to see if the vibes go away. Down the road spend some money and get a decent set and call it done.
     
  10. Mar 13, 2012 at 10:29 AM
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    Thanks, Streaker. Good info, I haven't had the chance to test mine in neutral to see if the vibes are still there.

    With that though, I really don't think my rotors are the problem. My '12 only has 5,400 miles and I've only felt the vibes 3 times since new. All three times were slow speed slowing. I have had bad rotors on other vehicles and felt those vibes from the front during high speed hard braking.

    But, your input makes me think that maybe there is a fault with the ABS system, falsely applying rear brakes causing the vibes through the drivetrain.

    Interesting, and will stay tuned until a resolution is found.
     
  11. Mar 13, 2012 at 11:18 AM
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    Yes, exactly. between 30-15 its the worst. definitely not rotors. Rotor vibration gets worse as they heat up and warp more. this isnt like that all.

     
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    I have the same vibe in my 08 Access that hammerman described. Like real slow over rumble strips. Definately in drive train. Not brake rotors. Mine started at about 20,000 miles:confused:
     
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    surprised when hear did not start until 20000 m iles.mine since near new (maybe had a few miles before i felt it but no more than 500 miles)i now have 5200 miles.my salesman who really does not know any real info did suggest maybe it was all the braking and safety features causing some light adjustment in braking.maybe he has something there.no doubt not rotors.actually i can't say for certain if foot has to be on brake or not? think so but can"t say.
     
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    Mine def goes away when i let off brake
     
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    i'll have to try to remember to let off brake and see.
     
  16. Mar 16, 2012 at 11:59 AM
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    brought her in. They say it's the rear drums. We shall see. parts ordered, will be in next week. I'll update then.
     
  17. Mar 23, 2012 at 3:26 PM
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    vibration much better but still present. must be normal. kinda disappointing. i wish they would address the issue!!!!!!!!!

     
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    kinda wondering how many miles on your 2011 and if it was doing it basically from new?pkjr and i have had issue since new and only 5000 miles on them now.only way they would be the same would be if yours was doing from new and there is defect from new on the drums.mine is not a wear issue since from new.thanks
     
  19. Mar 25, 2012 at 8:13 PM
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    Thanks for the update, Streaker. Glad things are better on your truck, but wish they were completely resolved for you.

    I'm at 6,200 miles now and not another incident since my original 3 times I previously mentioned. I 'might' have a chance to swing by the dealership this week, and if so, I'll report any findings after an in-person meeting with a service manager.
     
  20. Mar 26, 2012 at 9:46 AM
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    7300 miles and yes its done it since new. i thought it was road imperfections at first but eventually figured out it wasnt.

    clearly something toyota needs to address in a TSB because its so annoying! do you guys find it worse when youre going down a hill and braking?
     
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