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2013 tacoma won’t start

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Jzdog, Aug 20, 2024.

  1. Aug 20, 2024 at 5:24 PM
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    Jzdog

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    2013 Toyota Tacoma just died when driving now it won’t start. starter cranks over, battery has over 12 volts but it won’t start or even sputter. Scanned it with a OBD2 scanner and got the following codes. P0118, p0304, p0117, and p0335. Replaced the crankshaft position sensor and still nothing. Sprayed starter fluid in the air intake and no change. Checked all the fuses and did not find any blown. Swapped the horn relay with the c/OPN relay and nothing. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. Aug 20, 2024 at 5:38 PM
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    Did it overheat?

    Have you pulled a coil and checked for spark?
     
  3. Aug 20, 2024 at 5:41 PM
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    No it did not overheat. No I have not pulled a coil yet. How do I check the coil for spark?
     
  4. Aug 20, 2024 at 6:12 PM
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    Pull a coil out, plug it in, and use a spark tester or anything you can use to get a 3/8 to 1/2 in gap, crank the engine over, and see if it sparks.
     
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    Check fuel pressure at Schrader valve.
     
  6. Aug 20, 2024 at 6:28 PM
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    Toyota's don't have a fuel pressure test port, you have to tee in a gauge.

    In any case it sounds like it won't try to run on starting fluid so that suggests a lack of spark or a mechanical issue.
     
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    Lack of spark can also be caused by the truck lost connection to the key. When the key is inserted in the ignition look for the security symbol in the dash cluster. Not saying this is the problem but it is definitely possible. Pretty sure there's a way you can reprogram the key to the truck.
     
  8. Aug 20, 2024 at 7:03 PM
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    Ooh, didn't think about that. OP, is yours an electronic key?
     
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    While possible, he did say it died while running and I don’t think a chip issue would cause that
     
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    This is correct, an Immobilizer issue would prevent the truck from starting but wouldn't cause it to shut down while driving.

    Easy enough to see if the Immobilizer is happy with the key, see if the security light next to the clock is flashing with the key on. If it is then it's having an issue, if it's not then the key is recognized as valid.
     
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    ON your scan tool.

    Go to live data.
    Then read the Coolant Temp.
    See what it says.
    Truck does NOT have to be running to read this data.

    Also, you have a code for a Crank sensor.
    Does the Tach move when cranking?
    Also, in live data, does the RPM read when cranking?

    The crank sensor has to work before the truck will start.
     
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    Ahhh, I wasn't sure if it was even an option to consider. My truck doesn't have one so I can't say I'm up on it.

    Much appreciated sir.
     
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    P0118 - https://club.autodoc.co.uk/obd-codes/p0118
    • A short in the voltage supply wire connected to the control module and ECT device. This can occur due to thermal or mechanical damage, such as a fraying or melted insulation sheath.
    • Oxidised electrical contacts, resulting in a bad connection. Oxidation can occur if the parts are exposed to dirt and moisture.
    • A failing thermistor, caused by engine components overheating.
    • A contaminated sensor. The cause of contamination is often a rusty coolant system, old antifreeze, or dirt contamination in the coolant expansion tank of the car.
    • Air pockets in the coolant lines. This slows down the temperature regulation process of the fluid.
    • Low coolant levels, affecting the sensor readings.
    p0304 - https://www.partsgeek.com/blog/obd-...FEhI7zUrbZavF6Nu4DDowd_KpNUkLKodbO96Q7lAvRYup
    • DTC P0304 represents “Cylinder 4 Misfire Detected”.

    • P0304 is most commonly triggered by issues stemming from spark plugs, coil packs, ignition wires, distributor cap and rotor issues, and sometimes vacuum leaks.

    • Instead of replacing parts willy-nilly until the issue is fixed, visit a trusted, certified mechanic to properly diagnose the issue from the start.

    • You will most likely experience a rough-idling engine, loss of power, an illuminated check engine light, and a possible decrease in fuel mileage.
    p0117 - related to p0118

    p0335 - https://www.toyotanation.com/threads/camry-will-not-crank-and-has-a-current-code-of-p0335.1711309/

    Sounds like you've addressed the p0335. P0304 indicates a misfire in your #4 cylinder.
    [​IMG]

    I would also suggest checking your coolant levels and see if it's super low.
     
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    I checked the live data and there was no rpm reading or tach movement when attempting to start. My scanner did not have an option for the coolant temp reading. Only temp was IAT at 115F.
     
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    So it would appear we are missing the crank sensor signal, truck isn't gona run without that.

    Have you inspected all the wiring for any evidence of rodent damage.
     
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    The crab sensor and wiring are brand new. The wire is hard connected to the sensor then travels up to a connector plug point. Haven’t checked pass that point
     
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    Crank shaft position sensor
     
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    Could one thing be causing all of the error codes. I have tried to reset the codes with an OBD2 scanner along with disconnecting the battery and they all come back right away.
     
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    I’d disconnect the crank sensor at the plug, then at the ECM.
    Then put a jumper at the crank sensor connector, and measure resistance at the ECM. You are looking for very little to no resistance.
    Then remove the jumper and see if the resistance is the same or higher.
    If the readings are same when you remove the jumper, you have a short on both wires. If higher (OL) it’s good.

    That would tell you if the wiring from the connector to the ECM was good.

    Other than that, you need a scope.
     
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    IAT at 115 on a cold engine doesn't sound right either...Unless you live in the desert?
     

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