2014 issues already

Haha haha. Thanks for tolerating my bitching, Metallica it is first thing in the morning

 

Hey no problem. I just wish I lived such a perfect life that these would be big problems to me.

 

^^ This ^^

 

C'mon down south during the summer and see if AC not working is a non-issue. It is hot enough to be a life threatening issue for some. Salt eating up my frame is a non-issue down here but seems to be an issue for plenty of trucks up north. Perfect doesn't exist, try wishing wishes that are possible.

 

In the grand scheme of things it is a non issue. I live in the south also and know all to well the heat and humidity. Fighting a fire when it is 110* and 90% humidity is miserable but it is what it is.

The point is... although frustrating as it is... it's not the end of the world. Yes it sucks when things break and no one enjoys the trouble you have to go through with the dealer to get your stuff back in order.

What we're saying is if this is the worst problems you have to deal with you're living a charmed life. My biological father is dying of stage 4 lung cancer. I doubt he would be too concerned if his truck dropped a call every once in a while. If you don't have confidence in the ability of the truck to hold a call then find a more stable means of communication. Simple.

 

I have always had full size pickups and they have had there share of issues. I bought a 14 trd taco and I noticed two issues right away. The first one was a shudder when I would floor it and the other would be a vibration when the truck would be in 1rst and second gear. The vibration is nto really a problem but since I have never had this issue with my previous trucks I thought it was of concern. I took it to the dealer and they said that they already have a TSB (TSB-0008-14) out for both issues. After getting the truck back the shudder issue was no longer present however the vibration (however slight it might be) seemed to get worse. The vibration is not too the point where it is unbearable. It is more of a nuisance and again, i have never had that problem with the full size trucks. All in all I'm very pleased with my purchase and have trully fallen in love with this little truck's capabilities as my previous full size truck relationship of 10 years : )

 

Oooooh, did you get the bluetooth model that calls you in Sexy Stereo when your drawers are clean?

Back on topic--my clutch squeaked when the seasons changed (winter-spring) for about a month. Was going to give the rod behind the pedal a quarter-turn, following some suggestions on the site...but then the squeak went away.

There is a tiny hydro squeal when you first press on the brake on the TRD. Every. Time. If you don't want to suddenly discover it and suddenly hear it all the time, just forget you just read that...

My 2004 was a better built truck; the 2014 has a lot of creature comforts I am learning to be spoiled by. My town has outlawed having a cell phone in your ear while driving; the BT actually comes in quite handy both there and on the highway on vacation. The 2004 rolled through snow like nobody's business, but probably has more to do with the different tires than the truck. And I'm no longer concerned over the potential frame rot issue from when the '04 truck spent its first 6 years in MN.

Then again, the 2004 was paid for; the 2014 will cost me $300/month for the next 4 years. That buys a lot of creature comforts, too, lol...

 

I just don't think bringing in the perfect world, if this is all you have to deal with stuff is neccesary. Nobody has a perfect life and we all have annoyances that we each prioritize as problems to deal with and none of them are end of the world stuff compared to family health issues. Everyone knows that. I for one like issues with brand new stuff being brought up. It should keep manufacturers from dumping subpar overpriced garbage on consumers when enough people call them out on it. If not then the quality of what we buy for whatever use from whichever sellers will just completely go to hell and their existence as a company becomes pointless and people lose jobs when it goes out of business because no one wants to buy their broke ass right out of the box crap. Everyone has a stake in better quality products, not just consumers.

 

If you honestly think that ANY manufacturer has a perfect track record of vehicles with 5k miles or more on a truck, you are deluding yourself. It is called mass production. Any time you build something en-mass, you WILL have defects. There is really no way to avoid it. Even back in the day when Toyota was building the best out there, they STILL had brand new vehicles break down or have problems. You can have the best of the best, and things will still break. Go into any dealership service department, and you will find brand new vehicles getting repair work. Doesn't matter if it is Toyota, Dodge, GM, Ford, Audi, BMW..... EVERY service department will be busy with repairs. There are 1000 moving parts, and 10 billion lines of code in the computers (that includes the radio) as well as a mile of wires. Shit happens. EMI can interfere with computer operation. Hell, you could drive too close to a power substation and watch your compass and GPS go NUTS. When people ask for better and better every year, the manufacturers have to go through millions of dollars in research, design, redesign, testing and redesigning again... Even with all of that, the final result is mass production WILL have problems. There is no way around it.

No worries man. I have seen every single new owner of a car that has a problem in the first 10k get upset. Hell I had to deal with a Cadillac owner that had a STS with over 50k miles on it get pissed, and I mean PISSED that his turn signal bulb burned out. He said a Cadillac should go 100k without a SINGLE problem, and if not, then it was a total piece of junk. He actually traded in the STS because of a burned out light bulb! No shit!

There are many ways that are used to diagnose an intermittent problem. They may be trying to see if the pairing has something to do with the issue. Intermittent electrical problems are the most difficult issue to diagnose on today's modern vehicle. I remember we had a guy who had a Catera that would intermittently engage the ABS. The owner gave us no more information other than when he drives it, it sometimes happens. That is it. Ended up finding out that a road he was driving on had railroad tracks near a stop light. As he bounced over the tracks with his foot on the brakes, the ABS engaged due to the tracks. Took us a month to find this out after test drive after test drive after test drive.

 

I don't disagree with that. I just look at it from a different perspective.

 

Just to add onto the thread in a positive light,,,,,, I'd say that the OP's experience is a very limited example. He's still under warranty and hopefully the issues that he's going through will be the only ones for a good long time.

My 08' X-Runner as an example.

I took delivery on 12/15/07 with 8 miles on it (5 of which were me on a test drive). After a disastrous 1st and second experience with the dealer I bought it from ( long story not worth getting into here and now ) and the stupid gas pedal / floor mat recall way back when, I've been basically trouble free for 84K+ miles now. I had the dealer replace the shift knob due to the leather finish going to crap and they replaced the dealer installed tailgate spoiler due to some slight cracking on the outside edges ( the replacement did the same thing after a year). I have not had really any problems. A couple of little things let go like the door on the power outlet in front of the console and the upholstery hasn't held up well at all but mechanically, basically nothing has gone really wrong.

I've run Mobile 1 since the second oil change at 1100 miles. Had to swap out the oem battery at 38 months old. I use startron additive once or twice a year, I'm on my 4th set of tires, factory brakes still, did a coolant flush at 55K miles, neglected the plugs still, but for the most part, nothing.

 

People survived driving in exactly the same weather without air conditioning for 100 years. Before that, trains and stage coaches didn't have AC either.
It wasn't until the '80s that AC started to become a standard feature rather than a part of an expensive option package.

Believe it or not, people actually survive in the deserts of California and Arizona without having AC in their vehicles or homes!

 

Having a conference call @ 75 MPH on the expressway with 35 people seems to be a bit irresponsible IMO.

Pull over and park, before you wreck your office and kill some innocent people.

 

Everyone has turned into pussies. The only AC I ever saw when I was growing up in South Georgia was at the grocery store. We looked forward to grocery shopping.

 

LOL!
Grew up in South Whittier and I used to hang a bag of ice in front of the box fan (back in the days when they were steel and had stands and wheels).
Kept the blackout curtains (any other cold-war children remember those?) closed during the day to keep the heat out, and opened up every window as soon as the sun went down.

We were lucky to have forced-air heating. Parents looked into installing central AC, but the furnace was next to the front door, so there would have been a lot of plumbing and drywall work to mount the compressor in the back yard, plus the furnace did not recirculate any air... it drew from below the floor so the AC would have always been cooling outside air.

 

Kiss my ass Jimmy

 

Defects even covered by warranty can sway ones opinion on purchasing that manufacturer again. That's what happened to me. I was brought up in a G.M. family and a lot of my family worked there.Everybody drove GM. After purchasing several new vehicles myself and having issues under warranty I decided to opt for the Japanese rice burners. It would take a lot for me to buy another GM even when they get their current issues fixed.

 

that was my only point in all this, not that i have such a huge important list of shit to do that make it utterly impossible to get to the dealer, its that it seriously erodes my confidence over all with toyota. I'm like everyone else with their anecdotal rationalization, i have two new subarus and a honda in the last 5 years, ran them all to 100k and then some and never needed a nut turned on any of them for anything other than scheduled maintenance, similar to my last experience to toyota with my 92 pickup. Just feels like an awkward start and makes me question whether to look at the toyota vehicle when my wifes oddyssy needs to be replaced, which will be in the next year. i know the electrical stuff sucks, but, its also a really dumb thing to stake a reputation on if they can't make it work they're obviously underinvesting in that area, as its costing them the opinion of their customers regarding what ultimately is much more important, the quality and safety of the mechanical aspects of the vehical. I"m not saying its easy, but they're toyota for christs sake...

the truck is at the dealer now, and luckily, due to an outstanding service guy going well above and beyond, they're replacing everything that has been called into question with this. thanks again for the wisdom

 

correction, they won't replace the radio. "we haven't tested that phone to be compatible yet, so the problem is in your phone" huh? whatever. retarded. doesn't make sense technically either.

 

He should park it next to my Explorer