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2014 tacoma airbags bottoming out

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Dwrat, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. Oct 16, 2014 at 11:55 AM
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    Dwrat

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    I installed firestone 2407 airbags on my 2014 Tacoma and now it bottoms out on dips and speed bumps with 5-10 psi.
    I think the clearance between the top of the leaf spring and the frame has been reduced by the bags and brackets.
    I'm sure i can fill the bags up higher but it makes the truck sit to high.
    Any ideas out there about this problem?
    Thanks
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  2. Oct 16, 2014 at 6:31 PM
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    How can this be possible?? I had them on my 2006 and it never bottomed even under load with 5 psi in them. Are you 100% sure that they are installed correctly?

    Do they look like this and the brackets are installed this way?

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  3. Oct 16, 2014 at 7:39 PM
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    Post up a picture...
     
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  5. Oct 16, 2014 at 10:45 PM
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    My bags look exactly the same as posted above.
    The distance from the bottom of the bag to the top of the bag is the problem I think.
    There's not much room for the axle to move up before it hit the frame with the bags and brackets in the way.
     
  6. Oct 17, 2014 at 5:44 AM
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    I think that firestone requires 5 psi in the bags so they don't bottom out?
     
  7. Oct 17, 2014 at 8:10 AM
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    When I had mine I had to keep a minimum of 10PSI. Which I think is low.
     
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    The pictures that I supplied are with 5 psi. I can honestly say that I NEVER bottomed them out with 5 PSI in them, I didn't think it was possible. Yeh, it would hit hard, but that was hitting on the bag, not bottoming or pinching the bag.

    As stated above, you MUST keep 5 psi minimum in there at all times. I cant imaging what would allow it to bottom. Did you run separate lines for each bag or did you TEE them? Not that it would cause it to bottom, but I had separate lines for mine.

    I always ran 5 psi even when towing my 16' boat, only a few times I ran 15 psi when I trailered a heavily loaded dual axle UHaul trailer or a pontoon. It about jars your kidneys without a load with 15psi.
     
  9. Oct 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM
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    I have the Firestone air bags with Daystar cradles and my solution is I don't give a shit if the back is a little bit higher than the front. I think the trend of "leveling" pickup trucks is even dumber than putting carpet in pickup trucks. I keep 20 lbs. in the driver's side and 15 lbs. in the passenger side. My truck has a slight forward rake even with a shell, dogs and camping shit in the back. It doesn't bottom out over anything but it still rides comfortable even off-road. It's an easy, good-quality fix for the notorious 3-leaf packs that don't qualify for a TSB upgrade.
     
  10. Oct 17, 2014 at 11:55 PM
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    I had Ride Rites (Firestone) on my 2005 DC to STOP the bottoming out, and it worked perfectly. I ran 15 psi min. for no or little load (no height added either) and 25-35 psi with a load, again not to raise the rear, but to level it and stop the bottoming.

    Perhaps your AIR GAUGE is bad???
     
  11. Oct 18, 2014 at 7:53 AM
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    Are you absolutely sure that its actually bottoming out or it is just hitting hard on the inflated bag? Remember, you cut off the snubbers when you installed the bags, there is really nothing to bottom out unless the bag completely collapses and pinches itself.

    Your suspension is no weaker than it was before the bag was installed and you no longer have a 2" piece of rubber sticking up as a stopper, just doesn't sound right.
     
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    Mine bottom out too, even at 10psi. Get some jounce shocks in the rear : )
     
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    Finally someone that agrees with me. Levelling is just silly and pointless, unless you like the look of your truck dragging it's ass end around as soon as you put any weight in it...
     
  14. Oct 18, 2014 at 9:34 AM
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    I carry llike 600 lbs in tools on my air bags. Goota keep some air in there, it compresses more, the more it moves. It's the ultimate progressive spring. If you have 10 psi, and your bottoming, you guys have to be jumping you truck across intersections.
     
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    My RideRites were put on with a posted 10 psi MINIMUM and 100 psi MAX pressure. Why are you guys not adding more air if you feel a 'bottoming-out' at 10 psi???

    The most I ever ran was 45 psi once, but the ride was so stiff (and the rear was raised up noticeably) that 35 psi was my heavy load pressure and 15 psi was my light or empty load pressure.
     
  16. Oct 19, 2014 at 8:20 AM
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    Yep, leveling is achieved by using the truck bed.
     
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    My only question is: How long will those airbags last? They don't look like something that will last for long with the loads and exposing to all weather elements/salts/road greases.
     
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    The rubber in the airbags is a lot thicker than it appears in photos. If you felt one even with all the air out, you'd be surprised how stiff they are. The air lines are thick flexible plastic and the pipe fittings are brass, so they're very weather-resistant and durable. They also have a lifetime warranty and if you somehow punctured a bag and Firestone wouldn't replace it, you can get a new one on Amazon for about $80-100 bucks and replace it yourself in half an hour.
     
  19. Oct 19, 2014 at 2:45 PM
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    Haha I remember seeing that happen on our news :D
     
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    Sure your gauge is accurate? This is my bag with 5psi with stock springs and a leer shell on the truck. Doesn't bottom out and no harsh ride I put 17-20psi in when carrying my 550lb. camper which raises it to stock height.

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