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2015 Tacoma rear shock mounts changed - OME not an option?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by aix42day, Jun 1, 2015.

  1. Jun 1, 2015 at 8:56 PM
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    Just bought a 2015 Tacoma AC and decided to do a 3" lift. So after doing the research, including reading many GREAT posts on this forum, I had my choices narrowed down to one combo - an OME 885 coilover with top spacer for the front, the addition of an LR UCA, and the Dakar Leaf kit with OME 60091 shocks for the rear.

    That is, until I started to order parts from Toytec and saw this on the bottom of their webpage:

    ***Rear 60091 shocks will not fit a 2015 Tacoma -- Call for other options.

    Crap! I called Toytec and they said, yep, Toyota changed the rear shock mount in 2015, and these OME Nitro rear shocks will not fit the 2015 Tacoma. The rep I talked to said they'd been subbing out a Boss shock for OME in 2015 Taco applications.

    I searched and didn't see much commentary out there on the Boss shocks, but what I did see was of mixed opinion - some like them, some don't. I don't have any experience with them myself.

    I liked the idea of staying with "matched" OME completely front and rear, and had convinced myself that was the way to go, but now that I understand this is not possible, I'm wondering what shock would be a decent match with the Dakar leaf spring pack?

    I don't plan on doing any rock crawling with my Tacoma, mainly fishing/hunting and occasional weekend off-roading, the rest of the time this is a highway truck.

    Anybody have any experience with Boss or Bilstein 5100 rear shocks and the Dakar leaf pack? I'm mainly looking for something that will be compatible ride and comparable performance-wise with the front end OME lift choice. Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Jun 1, 2015 at 8:58 PM
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    There was another thread where ARB confirmed they would fit

    :notsure:
     
  3. Jun 1, 2015 at 9:52 PM
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    I just put 60091s on my 2015 last Wednesday... It took some finessing, a little wedging, and some banging but we got the bolt through the lower mounts! As my buddy put it, there was about a cunt hair to spare between the shock mount and the gussets on the axle bracket.
     
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    Must be a weird metric term.
     
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    The mount changed a bit on 2015. I've seen some where the OME shocks just wouldn't fit. If you wedged them on your friends truck, I hope you completely cycled the suspension and checked clearance.
     
  6. Jun 2, 2015 at 8:19 AM
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    They were put on my truck... And my friend is a mechanic with 10 years experience. We cycled the rear and he said everything looked good. Just had to finesse the bolt angle a little.
     
  7. Jun 2, 2015 at 8:53 AM
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    I talked to the very helpful staff at Headstrong Offroad also intending to buy this kit and Marie told me that only some of the 2015's had fitment issues, certainly not all as you can gather from some of the others that have chimed in on this forum. I personally don't want to have to suffer that pain because my mechanical agitation skills would result in a fucked up 2015. My neighbor has a 2015 DCSB TRD OR with OME shocks and 885's and said it went on as easy as the OEM factory strut.
     
  8. Jun 3, 2015 at 11:37 AM
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    As a follow-up, I spoke again with the folks from Toytec and they indicated that they had enough returns (damaged shocks due to inadequate clearance and fitment issues as some of you mentioned) that they are not supporting the 60091's on a 2015 Tacoma application anymore.

    Thanks to all who responded!
     
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  9. Jul 22, 2015 at 5:53 AM
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    I also have a 2015 Taco and was considering OME. My question is - Are theOME rears the only sets that don't fit? Why does the other brands icon, bilstien etc. work fine? Wouldn't each company have to make adjustments for the new mount? And is this one of those changes that's only going to effect the 2015 model or will they use the same mount for 2016+?
    Sorry for the questions I bought a Taco for many reasons one was because of the large amount of aftermarket parts but I don't want to be limited because I bought that one off year.
     
  10. Jul 22, 2015 at 5:18 PM
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    It's difficult to see here because I had already wiped the dirt off, but my icon 2.5s will contact the shock mount in the last 1-2" of compression. 2" body icons MIGHT fit.

    Look, the problem is just a stupid design. It works for OEM shocks, and that's what the factory cares about. They are fairly stout shock mounts, but if you use the full suspension travel with most any performance rear shock, you might as well have a grinder on hand before installing the new shocks. I'm going to have to pull mine and cut the schock mounts more. I already had to clearance inside the shock mounts to fit the rod end of the shock.

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    alright I'm officially lost where are you trimming I see enough space on the right side of the shock with no interference or is the trimming done near the bolt?
     
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  13. Jul 22, 2015 at 8:42 PM
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    It's pretty obvious if you look where everything would be if the shock was fully compressed. I've circled the contact areas in red. Due to the thickness of the shock mount on this area, and the angle of the mount, the shock body contacts the mount on compression. It is hard to see because I've only allowed it to compress and touch once, and there is still nearly an inch of compression left in the shock.

    Additionally, the area in yellow is where I already had to trim to fit the the shocks at all. There is sheet metal inside the shock mount, that is parallel to the shock bolt. It comes very close to the shock bolt and had to be trimmed to fit the rod end in theate and get the bolt through.

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  14. Jul 22, 2015 at 8:46 PM
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    Here is another very crude iPhone sketch of where I would like to cut my mounts.

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    I was one of the lucky ones to have my OME rear shocks not fit. It wasn't a big deal. I ground off about 3/16" and was good to go. Before and after pictures.

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  16. Jul 22, 2015 at 8:52 PM
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    There you have it, an actual picture. ;) thanks for posting
     
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    Your welcome not the best pictures but you get the idea. ;) Also sent a bunch of pictures to Marie at Headstrong in case any customers had question regarding this. Sometimes a picture is worth 1000 words.
     
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  18. Jul 22, 2015 at 11:36 PM
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    Fuck I bought the wrong year!

    Oh wait, I have an angle grinder.

    Great pics and explanation guys, thanks a bunch. This is something that was plaguing me as I bought my 2015 a couple weeks ago. Simple fix. :thumbsup:
     
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  19. Jul 23, 2015 at 12:49 AM
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    I have the N182 rear OME shocks and they fit just fine on my 2015
     
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    Also helpful, and interesting, because per the OME guide, they have the same piston/tube diameter as the 60091.

    I wonder if there is some slight difference in Toyota's shock mount size and position between the Sport/Offroad axles vs. the standard or base axles?

    Just a thought, but the realist in me makes me doubt Toyota wouldn't bother fussing with this detail if they can't even get the basic leaf springs right on these trucks.

    More likely (more wild ass speculation to follow), the ones having fit problems are from a different axle vendor or production run where the robot programming or jigs are a bit off.

    Or the were built on a Monday or Friday.
     
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