2016 AC I4 SR review

28000 for a 4 cylinder base and 35000 for a 6 cylinder off road. Maybe the higher end is priced better than the lower end

 

The SR is the base trim level for 2016. If you "add" the Utility package which is basically a delete, you get the black bumper, lose the rear seats, rear slider, etc. Strangely enough, when you select the Utility package, I don't believe you can add the Convenience package which keeps you from getting Cruise control.......odd.
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My Tundra would not allow the OD to kick in until specific temps were met, usually (2-3) miles down the road, depending on ambient temps. Perhaps this was the case here too.
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The OP's pictures are of a SR trim level truck, if the truck has the rear seat delete(Utility Pkg), the bumper would be black along with the mirrors and door handles.
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Gotcha,
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Sorry for the confusion guys, the SR truck I test drove had a full rear interior with seats. Only the Utility Package ("BZ" option) has rear seat delete.

 

I found a different datasheet that shows the new 5MT actually does has new gear ratios now. This one is out of TIS so it's probably correct.

 

Would this apply even with say some 265/75/16 on stock wheels/suspension?

 

To an extent. I lost a good bit of MPG and power with a minor increase. 245/75 highway tire to 265/75 all terrain.

The new ratio will help, but IMO a bigger tire would benefit from a re-gear. 4.30s won't make 285s feel "okay." Not with the 2.7. I'd be tempted to go 4.56 or 4.88 if I went bigger, unless it was a tall skinny tire.

 

It's not about tire size, it's about tire weight (and wheel weight if you go for aftermarket rims).

I intend to replace the stock 245/75/16 with AT tires, probably of the same size. I took a look at various ATs and some are as much as 6-8 lbs heavier per tire in the same size. That doesn't sound like much, but when it comes to unsprung weight, every pound matters. They will make suspension components from aluminum instead of steel because it saves a pound here and there.

The best tire I found as far as weight goes is the Toyo Open Country AT. It's a nice all terrain tire with a nice aggressive tread, but the weight is actually the same as the stock all season tires. It's the tire that comes standard on the new Ram Rebel trucks, and those got really good reviews off road. So I would probably go with something like that. I know BF KO2s are better off road, but they weigh about 6 lbs more per tire, and I suspect that will hurt both performance and gas mileage.

 

I have OEM alloys and fairly lightweight ATs (Cooper ATP). I dropped from an average of 23/24 MPG for thousands of miles with a high of 28 MPG to an average of 18-19 MPG with a high of 21 MPG. This is with the tire change and a minor lift (under 2").

 

Just for reference, the Toyo Open Country ATs in 245/75/16 are 38 lbs each.

 

In LT C rating?

 

My P265/75/16 Cooper ATPs are 39-41 lbs.

 

No, the regular "P" tires. I've never actually owned a truck, but in looking at the spec sheets from Toyota the Tacoma comes from the factory with normal "P" tires, not "LT" tires. My understanding is that you would only need LT if you are getting a 1/2 ton truck and towing or carrying large loads. Am I wrong?

My use of a truck will be more like the way I use my current SUV, which is 99% a commuting vehicle, and 1% of the time to transport something that would not normally fit inside a normal vehicle, but I can't imagine ever transporting something that is that heavy to be close to the payload limit. I'm thinking that for my use P tires should be fine.

 

There are uses for LT but not for what yours are.

Mine are P metric and about the same weight. Curious to see how the new trucks handle tire load increases.
I was pretty blown away at the large loss I experienced. I don't drive at 80 MPH either, I pretty much keep RPMs around 2k on the freeway which is where MPG is really teetering on decent or terrible for me. Puts me around 62/63 MPH.

 

Could be the lift that did it.

 

1.75" front and 2" rear is unlikely. Going from that to 2.5" front and 3" rear made no change in MPG, which IMO suggests it's largely tire related.

 

What is the tire weight compared to the original tires? Unsprung weight makes a big difference. Even a tire that is 3-4 lbs more per tire will make a noticeable difference in mpgs.

 

I think the difference is around 8 lbs, possibly 10 lbs per tire.

Both are P rated. OEM Dunlop was a highway tire at 245/75/16.

Now running a mild all terrain at 265/75/16.