2016 DCSB TRD OR - First Impressions

fredgoodsell · Sep 27, 2015

M16 said: ↑

truly offensive that Toyota is not offering the Access Cab Off-Road with manual. Assholes in suits making asshole decisions.
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Agreed. Doesn't make any sense.

kashtyaatsi · Sep 27, 2015

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I picked up the 2016 TRD Off Road with Manual Transmission this morning from a dealer out of state in Golden, CO which is a little over 400 miles from home. The drive home which included some mountain passes gave me a chance to get acquainted with the new truc
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This at Stevenson right off 6th Ave? Did you have this ordered? I drove this exact truck at Stevenson Saturday morning.

TacoBella · Sep 27, 2015

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I picked up the 2016 TRD Off Road with Manual Transmission this morning from a dealer out of state in Golden, CO which is a little over 400 miles from home. The drive home which included some mountain passes gave me a chance to get acquainted with the new truck.

I am a longtime 2nd Gen Tacoma owner, in fact my 2006 DCSB TRD OR has over 395k on it.

Here are a few impressions of the 2016. Not a thorough review, just some seat of the pants impressions.

Overall: It is a Tacoma. It handles like a Tacoma, rides like a Tacoma, feels like a Tacoma.

The new transmission is a real delight. The shifts are smooth, VERY smooth, without any of the awkward feel of the 2nd Gen 6 speed manual. A huge improvement.

The new 3.5L 2GR-FKS engine is definitely a big change. On the Interstate, the new engine/transmission did very well. Quiet and smooth. On steep hills, the new truck does not seem to have as much power/torque - close but a bit less unless you get heavy on the gas. Found I had to downshift earlier. Low rpm torque is not as good as 2nd Gen.

The interior is a huge improvement over the 2nd Gen. Very quiet and tight feel to everything. Well thought out controls. Very new feeling and at the same time very much still a Tacoma feel. I like it.

The trip included a lot of 80 MPH running on the Interstate over over non-flat terrain with lots of hills and a few steep climbs. I do not know exactly how full the truck was leaving the dealer, but the first tank was measured at 17.488 gallons for 336 miles which is 19.2 MPG.

I will be starting the build on this truck with coilovers and shocks, UCAs and rear leafs over the next couple of weeks.
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You have a GREAT truck there...run top tier fuel in it. Especially since its a specialty engine.

http://www.toptiergas.com/

jerseymike · Sep 27, 2015

Thanks for the review. I ordered a manual dcsb off road 4x4....kinda scared ordering without driving first but these reviews ease my mind

qnyla · Sep 27, 2015

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This at Stevenson right off 6th Ave? Did you have this ordered? I drove this exact truck at Stevenson Saturday morning.
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Yes. Ordered it. Departed by 0900 Saturday.

shakerhood · Sep 27, 2015

M16 said: ↑

truly offensive that Toyota is not offering the Access Cab Off-Road with manual. Assholes in suits making asshole decisions.
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Agreed!

qnyla · Sep 28, 2015

Af

tekoma said: ↑

How is the throw on the shifter? I very quickly installed the TRD short throw shift kit in my 2005 Tacoma. Hoping they reduced the throw for the 2016. Is reverse in the same spot as 05-15?
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After looking at it and comparing to my 2nd Gen, it does not appear that the throw length is much different. It feels better, but throw remains about the same.

TacoJonn · Sep 28, 2015

So are you keeping your 2nd gen? 395k is impressive! All original miles?

qnyla · Sep 28, 2015

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So are you keeping your 2nd gen? 395k is impressive! All original miles?
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Going to run it beyond 400k miles. My 16 year olds are starting to drive it.

bsacamano · Sep 28, 2015

M16 said: ↑

truly offensive that Toyota is not offering the Access Cab Off-Road with manual. Assholes in suits making asshole decisions.
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Truly offensive? Ha! That reminds me of this Louis C.K. bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEY58fiSK8E

Beers · Sep 28, 2015

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Af

After looking at it and comparing to my 2nd Gen, it does not appear that the throw length is much different. It feels better, but throw remains about the same.
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Interesting. I got the chance to drive a 2016 6-speed today and I thought the throw felt shorter than my 2012 while also being smoother. The clutch felt better as well.

tekoma · Sep 28, 2015

qnyla[OP] said: ↑

Af

After looking at it and comparing to my 2nd Gen, it does not appear that the throw length is much different. It feels better, but throw remains about the same.
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Gotcha, thanks for checking. Going to wait til a manual comes in to the local dealer to give it a try.

I too was hoping Toyota would come through and offer the DCLB with the 6spd manual. And now no TRD off-road access can with manual?! Maybe the TRD Pro will come offered as access cab with manual.

TacoJonn · Sep 28, 2015

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Gotcha, thanks for checking. Going to wait til a manual comes in to the local dealer to give it a try.

I too was hoping Toyota would come through and offer the DCLB with the 6spd manual. And now no TRD off-road access can with manual?! Maybe the TRD Pro will come offered as access cab with manual.
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Yeah that is just horse crap. The drive shaft of the access cab is the same as the DCSB. Shouldn't need any additional parts. It seems like each generation offers less configs with the manual. Not that this will do anything, but a few of us have written Toyota complaining about the manual only being offered in DCSB. Here is how you write Toyota. http://www.toyota.com/support/contact.html

shakerhood · Sep 28, 2015

qnyla[OP] said: ↑

Af

After looking at it and comparing to my 2nd Gen, it does not appear that the throw length is much different. It feels better, but throw remains about the same.
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The throw feels slightly shorter in my 2015 compared to my old 2008.

jerseymike · Sep 29, 2015

Does your manual OR have MTS? I know they obviously can't have crawl control in a manual but wondering if MTS is included

qnyla · Sep 29, 2015

shakerhood said: ↑

The throw feels slightly shorter in my 2015 compared to my old 2008.
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Hmmm, should be the same.

qnyla · Sep 29, 2015

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Does your manual OR have MTS? I know they obviously can't have crawl control in a manual but wondering if MTS is included
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What is MTS?

jerseymike · Sep 29, 2015

Multi-terrain Select, it adjusts the traction control to different terrains....sand,snow,rock. it is standard on TRD off road automatics but not sure about manual trans.

Noahs2015Taco · Sep 29, 2015

Congrats on the new truck. A lot of respect for picking and helping save the manual!

qnyla · Sep 29, 2015

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Multi-terrain Select, it adjusts the traction control to different terrains....sand,snow,rock. it is standard on TRD off road automatics but not sure about manual trans.
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No. All the crawl control and multi-terrain select stuff is missing from the manual. I had a 2012 4Runner Trail with these features, and I will not be missing them on the manual TRD OR.

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