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2016 TRD Sport V6 Transmission Shudder (low fluid from factory)

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by kefnbek, Jan 29, 2016.

  1. Jan 31, 2016 at 9:06 AM
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    Tucker73

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    Ok dumb question I looked all over and looked in Man. And I still can't find my Transmission dipstick on my 16 Taco.
     
  2. Jan 31, 2016 at 9:12 AM
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    There is no dipstick, that is why the Techs are not checking the fluid during the PDI, it is a long process.
     
  3. Jan 31, 2016 at 9:17 AM
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    Wow ok thanks. I guess I will wait till my first service then make sure they check it. Thanks for the info!
     
  4. Jan 31, 2016 at 7:17 PM
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    Picked up the truck Saturday and what a huge difference. The shudder is gone and shifts much smoother. However, much like "metdfd" I still notice it takes a couple of seconds to go in to gear from park when cold. The dealer told me to wait until later this week so the information updates in Toyota's system and call corporate to see about getting a free extended warranty on the transmission. I'll post how that works out. I am sure it won't be difficult at all.
     
  5. Feb 10, 2016 at 1:38 PM
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    That was kind of the dealer instructing you to call corporate and ask for extended warranty on the transmission .
    I suggest everyone having low fluid issues to do the same
     
  6. Feb 10, 2016 at 3:53 PM
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    I brought mine to the dealership for the same tranny issues everyone else is having. The official report was that everything was fine and that's just how they are. Shudder, delay, surging, etc.
    All of it. Whatever. The trans was a pint low, but unfortunately a fill up has made zero difference on any of the issues. But according to the dealership, I have no issues
     
  7. Feb 11, 2016 at 8:35 AM
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    because the fluid expands as it heats up.
     
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  8. Feb 11, 2016 at 8:39 AM
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  9. Feb 11, 2016 at 9:00 AM
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    Are you having issues with your transmission ? If you dont have the tow package , you shouldnt have the thermostat .
    The fluid check procedure does NOT open the thermostat ,it would take too long to cool the transmission to work on .
    The drain and fill procedure on the Toyota 6 speed AT is different than that of traditional transmissions. Since this transmission has no dipstick to check fluid level, the correct level must be confirmed by an overflow plug on the bottom of the pan. The fluid temperature MUST BE between 46°C (115°F) and 56°C (130°F) to accurately check the fluid level
     
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  10. Feb 11, 2016 at 9:16 AM
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    TRD Sport Rally -5 speed automatic Limited ,Factory heated leather seats ,chrome package,Super white with front windows tinted to 35 % Dick Cepek DC-2 wheels Summer tires - Good year silent armor P265/65R17 Winter tires - Good year P265/65R17 Ultra Ice studded Illuminated 4x4 switch TRD 3rd brake light cover ($20) TRD seat belt shoulder protectors (5). ($50) TRD ...B pillar emblems ($20) TRD rear slider sticker with devil horns ( $6) TRD summer floor matts ($60) TRD steering wheel emblem ($20) TRD floor pedals .($95) TRD shorty antenna ($14) TRD front Windshield emblems ($17) TRD head pillows .($60) TRD head rest protectors TRD door scuff protection $20 TRD floor matt emblems ($40) TRD tow plug emblem . ($40) TRD cigarette lighter with LED.($35) TRD tissue dispenser ($12) TRD front bezel emblems ($9) TRD door emblems ($6) TRD lanyards($9) TRD lisence plates with TRD bolts($50) TRD fender emblems TRD center caps Part Number:PT904-35070-CC ($80) TRD cd
    To guarantee that the transmission cooler is properly filled .
    If you skip the pinning procedure when the transmission is cool , there is no way to tell that you have the transmission cooler filled .
    This is what a lot of us believe happened at the factory when the cooler was completely empty .
    They forgot to pin the thermostat . Speculation mind you .
    There are very few 2 wheel drive trucks complaining about low levels
     
  11. Feb 11, 2016 at 9:32 AM
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    This PDF for the 5 speed auto showing the thermostat . I beleive its close to the same in the 2016 .
    You needed to bypass the thermostat when checking the fluid with the tow package on the early tundras . If you skip that step in the fill procedure , your transmission cooler didnt get filled .
    The thermostat is mechanical meaning it would be closed at low temperature . In order to get a proper fluid level check you want to make sure your transmission cooler is going to be filled
    http://www.toyotatundraforum.com/pdf/A750E.pdf

    There are at minimum 20 posts for low fluid conditions . I try catching most of them but its time consuming .
    I am trying my best to keep the Poll thread as relevant and as updated as possible . Its updated daily . All you have to do is click on the link and read the first page . I continue to edit as new information becomes available
    Your best bet for new information will be at this link
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...be-low-on-fluid-directly-from-factory.405642/
     
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  12. Feb 11, 2016 at 9:42 AM
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    HOW TO DOWNLOAD THE COMPLETE REPAIR MANUAL FOR YOUR TRUCK DIRECTLY FROM TOYOTA .
    I am posting this to avoid misinformation

    How to download repair manual from TIS
    https://techinfo.toyota.com/techInf...urce_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftechinfo.toyota.com%2F

    The toyota information system contents toyota vehicle repair manual which used to be PDF links, it's now chm mode which is only webpages. I am trying to download the manual for my vehicle in two days and here is the fastest way I figured out.

    Please share if you have better idea. I can't make those hyper-link work since they all became image in the pdf files.



    Tools you will need


    Firefox

    PDFCreator

    TIS login account ($15/2 days)


    Install PDFCreator, create a new profile, change the Auto-save option; Change the filename to <Title>, update the directory for auto-save. You need create a new printer to use this new profile, which can auto save your pdf to particular folder.



    Login TIS and open the repair manual, for the first page, make sure you selected the new PDFCreator printer as your current printer and print your first page, double check the pdf file at the auto-save folder and make sure that fits you want. I took the footer and header off so it looks much nicer.


    For firefox, type “about:config” in the address bar and add print.always_print_silent as Boolean and set it to true.


    Now, for each page you click on the left, there is a print icon on the top right corner, click that will print a new pdf file to the auto-save folder. For each page, you will need two clicks to save to pdf format.


    Go through all your pages and hit the printer icon. You should be able to download the repair manual in couple hours. The PDF files will have the full text title in the pdf file name, which you can easily search.


    I got my two vehicles' repair manual done in 7 hours.
     
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