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2018 Formula 1 Season Paddock

Discussion in 'Sports, Hobbies & Interests' started by OZ-T, Nov 28, 2017.

  1. Mar 28, 2018 at 6:13 PM
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    I think the questions about the Haas / Ferrari partnership centre more around the aero on the current Haas car . Aerodynamics is one aspect that teams are not allowed to supply to a customer team , but Haas uses the Ferrari wind tunnel and magically the 2018 Haas car is a carbon copy of the 2017 Ferrari
     
  2. Mar 28, 2018 at 6:24 PM
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    Mercedes investigation concluded that an offline tool , not their race strategy software , contained a bug that led to their incorrect pit lane delta calculation in Australia

    https://youtu.be/n3-ZQqU8m08
     
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  3. Mar 30, 2018 at 8:10 AM
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  4. Apr 1, 2018 at 8:13 AM
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  7. Apr 1, 2018 at 11:56 AM
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    They're not allowed to share aerodynamic info or designs yet the 2018 Haas is the 2017 Ferrsri . That's the crux of the issue .
     
  8. Apr 1, 2018 at 4:51 PM
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    Im guessing the answer is buried somewhere in the volumes of rules. :)

    Haas may have an incentive to cheat but what would be Ferrari's incentive help? My guess is if (big if) anything wrong was done it was espionage and not outright collusion.
     
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    I'm not saying there wasn't wrongdoing, but Gene Haas does not seem to me to be the kind of person to condone it. So I'm skeptical. FIA being what it is though, any sort of decision could come out of it.
     
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  10. Apr 1, 2018 at 5:26 PM
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    I wonder how much Haas could reverse engineer just from pictures of the 2017 Ferrari. Since they share suspension they could copy the basic premise from just photos couldn't they? And then fine tune it in the wind tunnel.
     
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    That's a reasonable explanation.
     
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    I saw that yesterday but like you just sort of a rumor. Figured it was April 1st so didn't give it much credit :)
     
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    In the olden days, quali was a 1 hour session, best time of the session got pole.

    The issue was, and why we have it the way it is now, is the top teams didn't run until the last 5 minutes.
     
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    Qualifying is working just fine the way it is, I don't see any reason to mess with a good thing.
     
  16. Apr 2, 2018 at 11:25 PM
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    Don't help me , no
     
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    YES! ty
     
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