2021 tacoma automatic trans problems like previous years. and it shakes...

I can tell a difference in the way our 2019 shifts and our 2021. When using the curse control, the 2019 seems to hold the gear it down shifts to longer then the 2021. Other than that, I really haven't noticed any shifting problems with the trucks.

 

The 3rd Tacoma AT is different than most other vehicles out there, 5th and 6th are both OD gears whereas most 6 speed transmissions only have one OD gear. Some people will change the transmission logic with OV tune but that doesnt change the gear ratios. Below are the ratios for 3rd gen trucks.


1st gen trucks have an OD Off button on the shifter to prevent the transmission from accessing the OD 5th gear, S mode on the 3rd gen trucks can limit one or both OD gears depending on the situation. According to the manual, putting the truck in D is recommended for optimal fuel savings so the transmission logic will always try and select the highest gear. I consider D as an ECO mode so I use it for flat highway at speeds that dont cause the truck to toggle between gears. If the truck can't make up its mind what gear to be in due to headwinds or terrain, I bump it to S5 or S4 and remove one or both choices. The manual even states to "use S mode to reduce unnecessary upshifting."

The transmission is configurable whether you like it or not, throwing it into D may not be the best configuration for every situation unlike most other cars you've driven in the past. Once you learn the different combinations using Smode and the ECT button the truck's performance starts to shine. If it's not something you're willing to learn or put up with then sell it for something that has a single OD gear and drives the way you're used to.

 

And you’ve just discredited yourself with Ad Hoc stupidity...

 

ECT matters when towing for sure. But I actually agree with you for the most part. Pre TSB 062, ECT was completely different from D on my 17. I'm pretty sure your truck came with that TSB and the early 3G Tacos had to be flashed. Post TSB, ECT and non ECT are very similar, except for towing again. The difference used to very noticeable.

My wifes Rav is very similar to what mine used to be with the major difference between modes, even though the Rav has Eco, Sport and regular. My wife has never taken it out of Eco mode lol.

 

To me the biggest difference between ETC and not is throttle response, not just the shifting. ETC clearly holds gears longer.

 

Yeah, our Rav never comes out of eco either. But the sport mode is like night and day, lol.

I’ve never told anything with my Taco so I wouldn’t know. That makes sense. . .

 

Ovtune problem solved ....

 

LMAO...

 

100%.

 

Wtf is Ad Hoc, serious question.

 

Lugging an engine is an old wifes tale? Ha.

Lugging is when you are at a mechanical disadvantage. Lets say you are doing 1500 rpm and pressing the throttle more than 30% to go faster or to make it up the hill, you are lugging your engine. That is very bad for your drivetrain.

2GR FKS is an over square engine and is designed to run high RPMs all day long. This engine is designed like a race engine.

I know i mentioned this before, but you type in a very unique way.

 

I dont know man, never once i had a power complaint on my stock 6 spd taco. It freaking rips. More than enough power IMHO. I never understood this lack of power complaint and i laugh when people say 3rd gen v6 is slow.

Now with the premium SFOB tune (full otto cycle) its an absolute beast. I honestly feel untouchable on the road.

 

“An ad hoc argument isn't really a logical fallacy, but it is a fallacious rhetorical strategy that's common and often hard to spot. It occurs when someone's claim is threatened with counterevidence, so they come up with a rationale to dismiss the counterevidence, hoping to protect their original claim.”

I meant to type ad hoc argument. Which is what this idiot does when people disagree with him. He’s already on the short list of douchebags I’ve put on ignore, which I’ve learned through time can really add a lot to my enjoyment of this place.

 

Can we get back to talking about Tacoma improvements?

The 2021 OR automatic is exactly what I expected it to be like when compared to my previous 2017 OR. I’m really happy so far as I approach the first 1000 miles on the vehicle.

I’ve only used ECT one time on the 2021 and didn’t really care for it. ECT was pretty much a necessity on the 2017.

 

I've never had a tacoma till 2020 so very new to the game, but i've never used ECT other than to tow my boat. I've tried it with nothing in tow, and don't find i like it either...it holds the shifts longer to the next gear hurting fuel economy. I have no idea how the tacoma automatics worked in previous years, but imo it works like their compact 4x4 pickup automatics worked decades ago.

 

Only issue with a race engine their designed for just so many hrs before needing to be freshened up or a full rebuild.

 

My 2016 SR5 had some of the weird shifting issues.
My 2020 SR5 has no issues.

 

How long do people find the trans learning lasts for on new trucks?

 

I’ve stated it before many times. My buddy’s ‘16 almost kept me from buying a Tacoma due to its horrendous shifting on the highway. Once I realized they didn’t all do it, it was game on.