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2021 Tacoma VS Ford Bronco - Thoughts?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by montypower, Dec 11, 2021.

  1. Dec 13, 2021 at 4:46 PM
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    montypower [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Years ago... Interactions with Toyota crowd were typically overly detailed, technical, analytical type folks. Seems that day has gone and past. Sad.

    Figured you guys might be interested in the actual component differences between the Tacoma and arguably the most highly anticipated SUV release in a decade. Not trying to convince anyone to buy one or the other. We own the 2021 Tacoma (very familiar with it). May purchase the Bronco. Manual transmission is a requirement.

    Guess you'd need to watch the video to know...
     
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  2. Dec 13, 2021 at 4:52 PM
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    I for one am happy that Ford did this. Great to see another serious off road vehicle on the market. Two weeks ago I picked up a brand new 2022 4runner TRD OR. I could have easily gotten a bronco. For me, the 4runner ticks all the boxes and i have already done the jeep rubicon thing with 35 inch tires. Its gone and its been replaced by a taco and a 4runner both OR's.
     
  3. Dec 13, 2021 at 4:58 PM
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    Agreed. Regardless if you buy a Bronco or not... It is a great new vehicle offering!
    4runner is hard to beat for durability and reliability. I'd love to see Toyota offer a more capable version. But it's fine for light trail use. Wish they offered the manual in the 4runner or RAV4. I'd totally add one to our collection...
     
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  4. Dec 14, 2021 at 10:59 AM
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    So, watched your video entirely. You did a good job. Though, I think your light trail use description is way off for the TRD OR/PRO. The toyota ATRAC/MTS system is considerably better than the ford system. The Bronco has the advantage in tire size and front/rear overhang as well as breakover. But traction wise, don't discount MTS.
     
  5. Dec 14, 2021 at 11:09 AM
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    Thanks for providing an educated response... I agree. My 2013 Tacoma ATRAC was definitely more functional than the Bronco traction control. It was a good combination with the rear factory locking differential. Not great for rock crawling but helpful at times for sure! Way better than an open differential. However, I'd absolutely take a locking differential over the traction control any day! Full control and less likely to break parts (smooth and controlled).

    Also... the traction control will overheat the ABS pump if used too much. I've encountered that numerous times. The BEST most functional, smooth, seamless traction control is the 3rd Gen Montero by far. My 2003 Montero was impressive (no noise) and crazy smooth. Check out videos online. However, it had limits and would overheat eventually as well.

    It would be a MASSIVE help if Toyota offered "optional" differential gearing and a front locker option. It would make adding larger tires much easier. And it wouldn't be difficult for them to do.
     
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    We agree on the front locker. There is plenty of options out there for front lockers for Toyota and the fact is you are saving nearly 20k between an OR and a Sasquatch 35 inch equipped Bronco. I don't need 20k to beat the bronco, 5 to 8k will do it nicely. Also, you will likely not see Toyota put a front locker in an 8 inch diff because they do not want to warranty it. So afermarket it is. I just received mine, not sure when it's going on. Probably when I put 5.29's in early spring.

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  7. Dec 14, 2021 at 3:39 PM
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    oh noooo, is competition in the market scaring the developmentally delayed here?? don't worry, i'm not calling you dummies retarded. the toyota line up is the developmentally delayed piece hahahaaa

    it seems ok when a guy in a 3 inch lifted tacoma on 33's says he can keep up with jeeps on factory lifts and 35's as a comparison on this forum.... hhmmm

    this is all good. competition drives up quality or it drives it out... ideally up with toyota.
     
  8. Dec 14, 2021 at 3:41 PM
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    It still happens when detailed, technical, analytical responses are requested for truck to truck comparisons. Plenty of educated folks would respond in that scenario.

    Nice try though.

    Tubers…
     
  9. Dec 14, 2021 at 4:14 PM
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    I CAN DO ANYTHING A JEEP CAN ON MY 28 INCH TIRES
     
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    Oh, look, the children joined the party. You calling people in here dummies, yet you both seem to think this discussion involves Jeeps. Lmao. OP, I hope these arent friends of yours. Because the company you keep says a lot.
     
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    Sorry also to mention Jeep but if I wanted something for serious off roading I would sure as hell get a Wrangler before I would get an unproven Bronco.
     
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    No, if you want the most capable factory off roader you would get a Rubicon. A regular wrangler does not even have lockers, unless things have changed. . Nor does it have a good system to simulate them.
     
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    Right, but have you noticed that a Rubicon is a Jeep!?!?
     
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    Do we need the double face palms here, lmao.
     
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    There is a Bronco out there on the internet running 40's, it is going through a LOT of steering parts but cool to see somebody took it that far already.
     
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    It will be interesting to see how long IFS can handle that.
     
  17. Dec 14, 2021 at 5:12 PM
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    Lite Brite just had him on where they run some trails with the Bronco and they're JLU, it does well but does't do the massive flex needed stuff then it all just suddenly ends ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnRobUGd9HA&t=720s

    This would be a neat comparison to something like the Marlin Crawler Tacoma on 40's both being IFS.
     
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    If I didn’t need a truck bed and MT, I would’ve bought a 4Runner a long time ago. The drivetrain is pretty much perfected in everyway, just not very efficient mpg wise. But hey, that thing will pretty much never break down so who cares.
     
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    Well of course a Rubicon is a Wrangler or a Gladiator, Wrangler being best for rock crawling.
     

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