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2022 Tacoma Clutch Upgrades

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by kenshinkas66, Jan 15, 2023.

  1. Jan 15, 2023 at 9:19 AM
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    BillyE

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    I’d change the fluid and get into the habit of dropping to 2nd before 1st. I suspect you don’t actually have anything needing repair.
     
  2. Jan 15, 2023 at 10:01 AM
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    Fluid change will probably reduce how often this happens, but in my experience won't completely solve it. I run the motorcraft fluid. The second to first trick will typically work. You can also put it into first (clutch disengaged) just before you come to a stop. When you come to a stop put it in neutral. This will usually leave things lined up to get back into first easily.

    As for the clutch, it would take some MAJOR abuse or manufacturing defect for it to be slipping at 7,000 miles. I don't know what your experience with driving manuals is, but if it is worn out I'd look into getting some lessons from someone who knows what they are doing. No offense intended, you might be doing just fine.
     
  3. Jan 15, 2023 at 10:13 AM
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    TruckGuy63

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    You are always supposed to shift into neutral when you stop. You are not really supposed to shift into first until the vehicle is stopped. As your coming to a stop in say second. Push the clutch in shift into neutral , release the clutch wait until the light changes shift into first and release the clutch and go. Second gear should only be if you are already rolling
    Sitting at a light in 1 st gear or any gear with the clutch in is wrong and bad for the throw out bearing .
     
  4. Jan 15, 2023 at 10:37 AM
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    GBR

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    Not sure if you're replying to me, but I agree with all this except I see no issue with going into first before stopping. I'm talking about like the final 10 or so feet of rollout and not actually engaging the clutch during this. Yes once stopped, neutral, foot off the clutch.

    Not something I personally do all the time, but I've found it's effective at aligning things for first gear.
     
  5. Jan 15, 2023 at 10:41 AM
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    I have just over 50k miles on my truck and very occasionally still have trouble getting into first.
    I find most of the time that this happens is when I'm slowing down in neutral, instead of downshifting, and after coming to a stop it won't go into first.
    Like others have said just shift into 2nd then first will open up.

    My current driving habit is anytime I stop, with clutch pedal depressed, is shift into 2nd then 1st and back into neutral then let off the clutch.
     
  6. Jan 15, 2023 at 10:52 AM
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    Threads like this make me want to keep my 2010 5 speed. It’s crazy to hear all of these 1st gear issues.
     
  7. Jan 15, 2023 at 10:55 AM
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    Huh? It's really a non issue. Doing absolutely nothing, I might get locked out of first once every 75-100 times. No different than any other manual I've owned.
     
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  8. Jan 15, 2023 at 10:57 AM
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    Not mine, nor my boxster.
     
  9. Jan 15, 2023 at 11:00 AM
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    That's cool. Keep on rocking them. I wouldn't let this "issue" influence buying a 3rd gen 6 speed is all.
     
  10. Jan 15, 2023 at 11:03 AM
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  11. Jan 15, 2023 at 11:11 AM
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    So you couldn’t put it into first and burned up the clutch using 2nd?
    Kind of confused … was this going on since you bought it ? How did you even drive the thing for 7k miles
     
  12. Jan 15, 2023 at 11:20 AM
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    Starting from a stop in 2nd is a no-go zone in a 3rd gen taco. 2nd is a tall gear and the engine isn’t very torquey at low rpm for the weight of the truck. I’m still surprised you could end the life of the clutch in 7k. I’m not young and I’ve never had to replace a clutch.

    I’ve never had any trouble getting into first except when I accidentally put it in reverse. My transmission is buttery smooth going into 1st. It’s better than any other manual I’ve owned in that regard. I’ll slap it into first while decelerating into a sharp corner and it loves it. Manual a past transmission hated that.

    In any case, as others have said, it won’t go into first, put in neutral or second, clutch it again, fiddle with it, and should go in. Don’t use 2nd.
     
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  13. Jan 15, 2023 at 12:04 PM
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    Only 7000 miles? What is dealer’s excuse for not covering this under powertrain warranty?
     
  14. Jan 15, 2023 at 12:07 PM
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    Every manual trans I’ve driven is different. You need to get the feel of it and once you do your good to go. Although I would like to have been a fly on the glass and watch those take offs in second gear. Especially if the Clutch is really shot. ( Imagine on a steep hill in second gear especially with the tall gearing )
    Oh boy
     
  15. Jan 15, 2023 at 12:35 PM
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    no lol
     
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  16. Jan 15, 2023 at 12:44 PM
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    Not sure who told you that, but the information is incorrect; even if you sit at every light you ever come to with the clutch pedal depressed, in gear or otherwise, the throwout bearing will outlast the clutch.
     
  17. Jan 15, 2023 at 12:48 PM
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    This sounds like alot but change the oil in it with your favourite (Amsoil, Redline, Syncromesh, Motomaster, etc) then drive it around for 30'000 kms and if no improvement try another Toyota dealer. I had an issue with mine not allowing a downshift to 4th intermittently when new and as much as my local deal was/is absolutely terrible with lies, lack of skill, the whole nine yards I will say the one thing that they told me that was true was these transmissions take a while to break in fully (30'000kms) I changed the transmission fluid at 10'000 km to make my self feel better and it helped a little by getting out alot of the break in particles but still wasn't perfect. Compared to now at 84'000 kms my transmission shifts like butter and flawless so I would give it a while to break in and see if it smooths out. If not I would return to the dealer. Getting locked out of first is to an extent always a possibility with a manual trans but if it's happening more than say once every 2-3months with daily driving if should be investigated. Another trick aside from the 2-1 shift to get into first is just to let off the shift, clutch out then in then try it again
     
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  18. Jan 15, 2023 at 12:51 PM
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    Agree
    The proper way is to sit in gear, at least that is what driver instructors told me ages ago. It's just easier to wait in N.
    Kind of like how you are supposed to down shift when deaccelerating but I always just brake in whatever gear I am in until 1200~ rpm then go to N.
     
  19. Jan 15, 2023 at 12:53 PM
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    Probably not excessive if they are replacing the flywheel. If you burned up the clutch in 7000 miles than they may assume the flywheel is also damaged. I got 200k miles on my 07 and just took it to a local shop and was quoted $1500 for clutch, pressure plate and resurface flywheel using Asin parts (same supplier Toyota uses). Would have been $1900 if I asked for Toyota parts. They did find heat stress cracks so I’m looking at $200 extra for new flywheel. Add price of OEM flywheel and dealer labor rates and I can see dealer quoting $2500.
     
  20. Jan 15, 2023 at 12:54 PM
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    Starting the truck in 2nd gear? Yikes.
     
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