2022 Tacoma TRD pro

This!!!!!

 

I find that if........Just kidding

 

I have been looking at lift kits for my stock 21' TRD pro over the last two weeks and this is what i have learned from TW:

TLDR not going to change pro suspension until i break the fox's a couple times or warranty ends.

A.) All of the avail lift kits for TRD pro are some form of block lift in the rear and spring progression fuckery in the front. Thats cool and all, but realistically it will affect/change the damping properties/progression of the 7-stage fox 2.5 setup.
Since these fox setups are not adjustable like say, a set of king's 2.5. You get what you get and have to live with it for better or worse. High likelyhood that the modification will shorten the expected lifetime of the fox setup or just outright blow the seals offroad.

B.) The 2.5 fox setup on the pro models are rated to be checked at 10k, rebuilt at 50k. Fox and other places rebuild them. T will allegedly replace blown units under warranty up to the 10y/100k (if you have it).
Im not aware of any factory setup that can be warrantied for that long. Kind of a nice insurance for a busy person or someone who dislikes the shop being their 2nd home.

C.) Lots of folks on TW have lifted pros, sucessfully with no issues, and they look great. *SHRUG*

D.) I did some trails and was very surprised at how capable and comforable the fox setup is. I did a medium trail with obstacles and 4ft moguls, walked the whole thing no problem, i think i hit the bumpstop once.
Absolutely amazed at how quiet it was articulating. Zero creaking, knocking, couldnt tell if frame was flexing because it made no sound. I could hear grass scrape the doors. Clearance was fine.
I thought i for sure needed a lift and larger than 30" stocks. I was wrong.

E.) I rode in a friend's lifted 20' taco on kings 2.5 and it was amazing offroad, but felt like a boat drifting in the wind on the freeway, maybe could be tuned out?.

These last two experiences from my most recent off-road trip with friends confirm for me that i dont yet "need" to lift nor "want" the trouble and maintainence, as much as i may think i do.
I've built and basically ruined many cars and motorcycles. I have hit modification-rock-bottom multiple times where the toy is no longer comfortable, safe, or legal.
I really like the way the pro drives on-road and off-road. I'm going to assume thousands of hours of R&D went into striking this balance. I'm currently at 7 hours of google trying to re-invent it. Let you know when i crack the code.

 

Spring rate and preload have negligible difference in life expectancy of the shock. They also don't change bound-rebound rates of a dampener.

 

Why would you buy a Pro just to gut the suspension, thats pretty much the whole point to a Pro, especially a trash drop bracket kit. I too like to burn money, just saying...

 

I miss the days when folks would just post a link to the pre-existing, exhausted thread that would answer a new member’s question. Y’all are tired. Xoxo

 

i love when this happens. 9/10 the disparity is not the 10K price difference, its the time vs money equation between the owners. In the end it works for everyone, proof positive as everyone is allegedly happy with their truck and purchase.

 

No, you’re wrong.


That’s about how it goes from here, yah? Love your truck, btw.

 

Here is a video on ifs myths, skip to 8:45 and he goes over preload and spring rate.

https://youtu.be/l1tTelhdEiM

Also:

https://youtu.be/YkJqxMVM3v8

These guys explain it a lot better than I ever could.

 

this is a 10-point post. thank you.

 

I agree that is true on a pure/simple shock. but on a multivalve system like the fox 7-stage or similar, the spring response is linked to the valving response. changing one albeit it a linear change puts it out of sync with its mate. That lower sync i believe results in a negative effect. Arguable how large or small it really results in america's favorite and most reliable pickup.

 

Rock Sliders installed on my 22 Pro!!

 

Looks great!