2024 Taco EV

Too much of a hassle? Sounds like she bought an EV just to say she has one.

 

Toyota could build a Tacoma Prime, but you would be paying a 20k premium and waiting an additional 2yrs to take delivery.

 

Why would anyone want to wait while their EV charges? I can still stop and eat BBQ with out waiting for the vehicle to charge.

 

It is worth noting that not everyone is as savvy with modern tech as others. Had she bought say a Ford and used nothing but the built in charger navigation it would be an absolute disaster

On the flip side use Abrp and plug share and there are chargers everywhere

 

At that point what’s the difference? If you’re stopping to eat the time it takes to charge is entirely irrelevant.

 

Current EV ownership requires patience until charging times decrease for longer trips. BUt seems odd to buy an EV then rent a gas car. That's a pretty impatient person....but 'Merica...we want everything fast.

 

I can eat faster than it takes to charge. I can eat anywhere I want, no charger no problem. I won't have to talk to the other patrons who also drove their EV, they'll want to talk about their same cookie cutter EV. I can't park in the back away from the other vehicles. When I have to poop I won't have to wait for my car to finish charging before I can go somewhere with a nicer accommodations.

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Most busy restaurants want to get you in and out as quick as possible, it's a volume business. No hungry patron wants to sit and wait for a table. They'll go somewhere else.

Maybe if there was an EV lounge where drivers could sit and waste time on their devices. That might be a more sensible approach, but why not just sit in the car at that point. You're still just making a road trip longer than it needs to be.

I could see something like a drive in theater where you park and sit for hours where you could charge your vehicle, but who wants to sit for hours? How much a drive in charge to resell you some electricity, the return on investment wouldn't be there to build something like that. Technology has already made the drive in, and sit in theater obsolete.

Home charging is the only form of charging that makes any sense to an EV owner.

 

You should know by now not to try a logical argument with that one.

 

That's why I ended up ignoring him. Life has been better since..lol

 

Road charging is the dumbest element of operating an EV.

If I'm driving a 90k Platinum Lightning I'm not going to have the time to sit on my ass charging the thing. I'm either already too busy creating the lifestyle to pay for the thing, or I'm going to be to busy finding a way to afford it.

 

Get a better job and stop being poor then.

 

That's the point people aren't driving expensive EV to restaurants so they can use the chargers. They are charging at home, same as the people driving 60k EV. Charging stations are a boondoggle.

 

Charging stations are the exact same thing as a gas station they just provide a different fuel source.

 

Why are you getting notifications? Click the little red box and they go away.

No electricity is not a fuel.

 

In this case it is 100% analogous to fuel.

In fact, for the last 30 years the US Government has classified electricity as an alternative fuel.

 

No that's not how any of this works. Fuel can only exist as a liquid a gas or a solid. I guess you can make electricity by smashing a solid rod of plutonium in a reactor, or what ever the process of nuclear fission is called. I don't study this stuff and have no real intrest in how nuclear works.

That does not make electricity a fuel. Then you follow it up with the USG classifies electricity as an alternative fuel? No.

In what state does electricity become a fuel?

 

You might want to go look up what the word analogous means before spouting off. Per usual you’re just typing with no background on the matter and no effort made to research.

 

It's a ploy. By constantly segmenting the discussion off in tangents you can cause the conversation as a whole to derail.

You see this when folks don't like a conversation heading in a positive direction if it disagrees with their political bias. It's easy to keep the conversation negative by creating an unrelated secondary discussion not salient to the primary point.

Similar to a gishgab but not quite the same

 

It would be useless research in my case. I have no use for such knowledge.

Electricity is not fuel, it's energy.

 

Ford Lightnings are still sitting on dealer lots, while order banks are currently closed. People aren't going to be buying higher trim Lightings in a recession. Can't order the lower trim outside of fleet orders. Gas F-150 isn't selling that well either. That's why I don't think Toyota wants to build a BEV Tacoma. Not when Ford is raising MSRP on a vehicle they can't sell, or won't sell.

Not sure why the conversation turned to a debate on EV vs ICE, a day after I brought up Lightning sales. Or what the principals of what electricity is.